Re: ppp-udeb

[Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr>]

On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 03:26:07PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr> writes:
> 
> > On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 12:43:48AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> > > Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr> writes:
> > > 
> > > > On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 03:10:15AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > > > > No plugins support means that some PPP over ATM DSL connections will
> > > > > not work (but one or more extra packages would be needed anyway).
> > > > 
> > > > Sorry to be late about this, but i think that removing plugin support is
> > > > not so nice, especially as you then loose pppoatm support, and this
> > > > would mean no installation over pppoatm ADSL modems.
> > > > 
> > > > And yes, i plan to somehow make the unicorn drivers available as udebs,
> > > > altough i don't know yet how i will achieve that and since they are
> > > > non-free, they cannot go into the official medias.
> > > 
> > > If thats the only one and the size is different you should build a
> > > ppp-atm udeb for it. I would like to have a floppy set with dsl
> > > (userspace or kernel pppoe, whichever works and is smaller) support so
> > > space is at a premium.
> > 
> > Most french ISP uses pppoatm, and not pppoe, so it will hardly be
> > usefull here.
> 
> Thats not the point. If the only use for the plugin support is
> pppoatm and it only works with a nonfree driver your bloating ppp-udeb
> for something that can't even be released together.

Mmm.

> Providing a ppp-atm.udeb alongside a dsl-unicorn.udeb on the other
> hand would solve the plugin problem and save space.

But would the pppoatm udeb include the whole ppp, or only the plugin. In
this later case, you need support for plugins in ppp, which is something
that is disabled here, if i understood well.

> But aren't the plugins needed for kernel mode pppoe too? Its been a
> long time since I used kernel mode and back then it was via
> plugin. Since the kernel already comes with pppoe module using kernel
> mode is probably less space.

pppoe and pppoatm are two different things.

Friendly,

Sven Luther