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Re: Still no base tarball

On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Anthony Towns wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 09:30:58AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> > On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > > 	http://people.debian.org/~sfrost/basedebs_3.0_alpha.tar
> > > 	http://people.debian.org/~sfrost/basedebs_3.0_i386.tar
> > > 	http://people.debian.org/~sfrost/basedebs_3.0_powerpc.tar
> > > Which should be enough to get you started.
> > This will work for the testing folks. Thanks!
> > Where will this file be placed in the final release? (i.e. where does the
> > installation software expect to find this on a CD or in an archives?)
> Dunno. 

You don't know how your installer sofware works? Boy do I feel secure...

> The installation software will never automatically download this
> either: 

I'm not asking where the installer will download it from, but where the
installer expects to find the base system. Does it just expect it to
appear on the target system?

> it's only for people doing "manual" installs, without CDs or a
> net connection.

I think you fail to understand. 


A windows box with dialup net access. Nothing more. The only access
to the net is a modem.

In the past, I downloaded the boot floppies, the drivers disk images, and
the base system disk images, used rawrite to make the floppies, do the
base install, make a ppp connection and install the rest of the system.

With only a tarball for the drivers and the base system, I can still do an
install, from a small partition holding these needed files, or by toasting
a CD.

This install method has been provided for as long as I can remember.

> -boot guys?

-boot guys hell!!!

The boot floppies do not install the base system, the installer does. That
point has already been made clear by Adam. The problem that results is
very clear. You each want to pass responsibility for this problem off on
the other half. These files have to go somewhere in the archives or no one
can use them. In the past, they all went into disks-<arch>. Now what?

It sounds like there is no support in the new installer for previously
well supported install paths that are absolutely necessary for many new
users of Debian.

Are you telling me that I must untar the base tarball by hand to satisfy
the installer? This new tarball contains the Debian packages for the base
system, and not the unstalled packages. Where do I put it? What does the
installer expect in a LANless system? Is my only recourse to buy a CD from

Waiting is,

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