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Re: Improving installer?



>From:	Adam Di Carlo <adam@onshore.com>
>
>Uh, this report is far too little detailed.

Yes, I knew it. I just wanted quickly notice that there were problems...
I had made a log, though:

  After rebooting, I made root and user accounts. I removed the
  PCMCIA package (whatever) because installer suggested to do so.

  Note the next operation: I answered no when the installer asked
  if I wanted to use PPP (net?) to install the rest of the system.

  After answering "Simple" to the next question, I got punch of
  errors like this:
    Err http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US/main Packages
    Could not resolve 'non-us.debian.org'
    Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/...

Sorry, didn't record the questions... they sure can be found from
the installer. I installed the Debian twice with the same result.

>Why do that?  Why not just upgrade to the woody distribution, or the
>unstable distribution even?

OK. Thanks for the tip. I will check it out.

[ ... ]
>This should be in the form of a wishlist bug against 'modconf'.

I will submit it soon.

>I don't feel asking another question for such a minor detail is
>worthwhile.  It's easy to change this later with 'tune2fs'.
[ ... ]
>So?   Just do it after the system is installed.

Use of tune2fs is too complicated and reserving 5% of disk space as
default is way too much. Solution: changing the default reserved space
to reasonable 50 Mbytes and letting _Linux experts_ to use tune2fs later
would be more better (afterall experts knows the existence of tune2fs
program more likely than non-experts).

I feel the change from 5% to some reasonable value must be done in anyway
at the time when Linux is as easy to install as MS Windows. It is the
most novice users who looses here because they don't even might understand
what takes the disk space.

But sure making the setting to installer would make it easier for all.

>> The installer had other confusing points:
>>  -It asks for the Debian CD but I have 6 CDs in total
>
>Hmm.  It can't know how many CDs you have.  It only cares about the CD
>you booted with or whatever CD matches the kernel you are booting.

Would please add something like the above line to the installer? It would
explane what CD is asked for. And hey, I didn't need the explanation.
I picked up the correct CD immediately. I just feel we should make everything
more obvious, more clearer.

>>  -Installation of module "lp" failed
>
>I've heard that before -- dunno if it's modconf's fault, or modutils,
>or the kernel, or what.  You could help by tracking that down,
>attributing the cause, and filing a bug.

I will test it (with version 2.2 rev 2) again just before installing more
recent version of Debian in a couple of weeks. I don't want clean my disk
sooner.

>This would have to take the form of a bug against lilo.

I will submit it soon.

>No doubt, but understand that boot-floppies itself is obsolete, and we
>are no longer adding such major new features to  it.

I don't undestand how one could install Linux without boot-CDs/floppies.
By using MS Windows... eek!  ;-)  Would you please explane the new system?
I'm happy to test it too.

Thank you for your time. My life is now easier because I now know for
which packages the bug reports should be made.

Regards,

Juhana



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