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Re: Which task package installs gpm?

On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, David Starner wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 01:50:05PM -0400, Robert D. Hilliard wrote:
> >      Personally, I cannot imagine a system without emacs, but enough
> > people favor the other "one true editor" that it is unreasonable to
> > load up a newby's disk with emacs without giving him a choice.
> He has a choice. ae and nvi are both higher priority than emacs.
> > Likewise, many people will never use tetex, so it shouldn't be pushed
> > onto someone's disk without asking.
> It's not - you always have the option of removing it, of going
> into dselect and chosing your packages. 
> See, I wasn't arguing that the daemons shouldn't be in standard.
> But if they are in standard, standard shouldn't be installed by
> default, because that opens potential security holes. I would
> have no problem installing emacs or tetex as standard.

Well, what would you say, when your harddisk is filled with 200 MB, and you
have only a shell, one editor you can use without reading lots of manuals, and
compilers for languages you can't even understand. This 200MB does _not_ give
you a graphical environment, or a usable webbrowser, or even some way to print
a nice letter on some omni-present non-PostScript printer.

... in other words: to the average Windows convert, this system gives you
about as much functionality as plain old DOS. DOS is some 5 MB. 

And most of the users installing Debian happen to be Windows converts.

So, _if_ we consider to install standard by default, we should probably
gravely re-think what should be in a present-day(!) "standard" system.

  Anne Bezemer

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