I was just trying to compile bogl and got real_kver undefined in bowl_boxes.c, that is the only reference i found for it. Its just checking wether the kernel is 2.0 series i think, but im not sure where its supposed to be defined. Its easy to work around, but thought someone might know a proper fix. Another thing, does anyone know any good refrences to look into programming fbdev, i cant find much at all Thanks Glenn McGrath