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Re: boot-floppies dselect acquisition methods

On 28 Jan 1999, Adam Di Carlo wrote:

> > ftp and http are not on the current (2.1.5) base system. May I add
> > them (again)?
> Geeze, I dunno.  The rumor I heard was that ftp (from dftp, right?)
> supports authenticating FTP proxies, and apt decidedly does not.  In
> which case that might be a candidate for being reinstated.

And for the tiny fraction of the population that is behind an FTP proxy
without any http proxy support they can fetch it from the archive by
hand there is no need for it to be on the boot disks. (It is hard to find
a PCee that cannot run netscape)

>   ftp		(dpkg-ftp)
> 	subobtimal ordering, claims to do proxy FTP, but! is broken, at least 
> 	for me:
> 	Use of uninitialized value at /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/dftp.pm line 231,
>           <VARS> chunk 1 (#1)
> 	Uncaught exception from user code:
>           FATAL at /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/dftp.pm line 234, <VARS> chunk 1.
> 	  main::loadconfig('vars') called at /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/setup.tty 
> 	     line 173
>           main::main('/var/lib/dpkg', 'ftp', 'ftp') called at 
> 	     /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/setup.tty line 215

Well that sucks :P Talked to the maintainer?
> Edgy:
>   mountable	(dpkg-mountable)
> 	last updated 12 May 1998, tested?  obsoleted by multi_mount?

Mountable is a fairly nice method, it does logging and I think a small
amount of ordering. However it is not better enough compared to apt to
have it on the boot disks.

> Should probably keep:
>   http		(dpkg-http)
> 	maintainer says is obsolete in /usr/doc/dpkg-http/README.Debian:
> 	Package installation is unordered, which can cause difficulty
> 	with important system packages with predendencies.  Package
> 	ordering is available in APT (A Package Tool), which will
> 	replace dpkg-http.
> 	However, below:
> 	   HTTP Proxy firewalls are supported thanks to Greg Wooledge.
> 	"Authorization:" and "Proxy-Authorization:" are both supported, and
> 	are known to work on "ANS InterLock Proxy" and "InterLock/4.0" firewalls.

APT supports HTTP/1.1 compliant authenticated proxy servers, that is
servers that use Proxy-Authorization, those that just use Authorization
are horribly broken and v3 will probably support them through a
configuration directive.

Again, as with dpkg-ftp the tiny fraction of the population that is behind
such a firewall can get either a newer apt or a dpkg-http by hand they
should not be on the boot disks.


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