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Re: Slink _minimum_ install from 2.1.4 disks

On Sat, 9 Jan 1999 04:37:25 -0700 (MST), Bruce Sass <bsass@ecn.ab.ca> said:
> Well, ya, a little... I was referring to the error caused by the
> random sampling of FS and VM info.  Synchronizing the data
> collection with the installation will allow sampling at known peaks
> in resource use, instead of hoping that I sampled enough during the
> correct intervals.

>> Interesting idea -- dunno if we'll get to it for a bit.

> Thanks -- Aw, just hack the equiv of `echo $IDstring >>
> install.log;df >> install.log;cat /proc/meminfo >> install.log` into
> the existing code, it doesn't need to be distributed.  Nice stuff
> like automatically analysing the data and updating the docs can wait
> 'til ya get tired of doing it by hand.  ;)

Woah, we have an install.log?

> Hmmm, I am basing my theory on the fact that if I follow the
> directions and set all available RAM as `extended' (or is it
> expanded, whatever), Linux thinks I have (4096 + 384)k... this
> actually crashes the machine. 

Wow, that's strange.  Maybe you bios is reversed in what it thinks it
is doing?

> When I leave the 384k block as
> `expanded' memory, Linux sees 4096k and I get SEGVs, sometimes,
> depending on what I am doing, or how long the machine has been up,
> and (curiously, apparently) on how much free disk space there is.
> Sometimes I can go for days without a problem, other times dselect
> SEGVs as soon as it hands a job off to dpkg.

Well, I suggest getting a RAM testing software and testing that you
don't in fact have some bad ram.  Sometimes particular application
events will trigger the problem in a patterned (while still
intermittent way).

Look at memtest86 from the hwtools package.

>  Ya, I know, it is
> really dpkg SEGVing, but dpkg alone rarely gives me any trouble.
> Hmmm, does dselect test for RAM and add --smallmem to dpkg's command
> line if available is below some set point (#72 on my todo list).

Yes, AFAIK, it does.

>> I've been supporting PC installations since DOS 3.1.2, and there's
>> always difficulties.  I suggest pulling out cards, and even taking
>> the stock kernel-image and trying a few different recompiles,
>> modifying the selected drivers.  The qlogicisp probe seems to kick
>> up a lot of problems.

> <sigh> I would love to be able to compile a kernel, and pulling
> cards is out - it is an old laptop.  Unfortunately, anyone with a
> computer I know well enough to ask if I can take over their machine
> for a few days, so I can learn how to compile a kernel... well, lets
> just say that the look that comes over their face is priceless.  I
> guess that's what happens when you are raised as a user in the M$
> and Mac WIMP world.

Oh, well, as long as you set the nice value, no-one should really
mind!  I'd let you use mind but I'm on dynamic IP PPP, and not always

.....Adam Di Carlo....adam@onShore.com.....<URL:http://www.onShore.com/>

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