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Re: Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel



Hi,

On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 07:45:12AM +0200, Per Andersson wrote:
> 
> I don't think this is a particularly good measure since the blends are
> relatively unknown.

I think it is not a measure for a sequence but rather a measure whether
a Blend should be included or not.  For instance I missed
multimedia-tasks in my list (for the simple reason that I have not seen
any relevant commit since nearly one year).  But for sure multimedia is
quite important for our users and perhaps the fact that there is a
chance to prominently be shown in the installer might be a motivation
for multimedia maintainers to review the tasks (both team members who
previously commited to Git in CC).
 
> >> $ curl -s 'http://popcon.debian.org/by_inst' | grep -e '-tasks '
> >> 10053 education-tasks                  983   355   448   173     7 (Debian Edu Developers)
> >> 10929 science-tasks                    830    76   660    58    36 (Debian Science Team)
> >> 11000 junior-tasks                     818     0     0     0   818 (Debian Junior)
> >> 15895 plasma-widget-smooth-tasks       370    71   285    14     0 (Salvo Rinaldi)
> >> 17234 gis-tasks                        305     0     0     0   305 (Debian Gis Project)
> >> 17279 med-tasks                        304    26   250    11    17 (Debian Med Packaging Team)
> >> 21947 multimedia-tasks                 166     0     0     0   166 (Debian Multimedia Maintainers)
> >> 32922 games-tasks                       57     0     0     0    57 (Debian Games Team)
> >> 34392 debichem-tasks                    50     0     0     0    50 (Debichem Team)
> >> 35076 ezgo-tasks                        47     0     0     0    47 (Debain Ezgo Packaging Team)
> >> 41997 tine20-tasks                      27    13    11     1     2 (Not in sid)
> >> 69244 site-tasks                         5     0     0     0     5 (Not in sid)
> >> 93698 agenda-tasks                       1     1     0     0     0 (Not in sid)
> >
> > (column 3 is install count among active popcon users;  descending order)
> 
> It would also only rate Science, Edu, and Med (in that order) which might be
> good top candidates anyway, but other blends have zero (0) installations
> among active popcon users. So in any case, some ordering except popcon
> install count is necessary.

I'd consider alphabetic ordering as sensible enough.  I would not
(mis)use popcon stats as ordering criterion in this case.
 
> I suppose questions regarding ordering can be: 1) What do we think Debian
> users want to install? 2) Are there any blends in particular good shape?

I think both criterions are not as objective as alphabetic order.  Think of
our language selection menu?  Should we try to rank it according to the user
base of a certain language or the translation status?  I think this gets a
clear "no".

Kind regards

         Andreas.

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