On Tue, 2017-01-17 at 21:05 +0100, Julien Aubin wrote: > Check kernel 4.7 history for example (I noticed it in BPO, but also in > testing). In BPO each time we had the issue we had to wait for one entire > week between the two releases. > > Here you have the upload dates : > http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux/ > http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-signed/ > > The best examples I have around are for BPO, but I saw such issues also w/ > testing. linux and linux-signed propragate to testing *at the same time*. > For example for kernel 4.7 : Let's not just take examples, let's look at the timestamps for all the linux/linux-signed source packages we've uploaded to jessie-backports from 4.7 onward: linux (4.8.15-2~bpo8+2) Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:18:03 +0000 linux-signed (3.4~bpo8+1) Wed, 18 Jan 2017 15:26:22 +0000 linux (4.8.15-2~bpo8+1) Fri, 13 Jan 2017 17:03:39 +0100 - binary uploads rejected, so nothing to sign linux (4.8.11-1~bpo8+1) Wed, 14 Dec 2016 15:47:42 +0000 linux-signed (3.3~bpo8+2) Sat, 17 Dec 2016 15:07:31 +0000 linux (4.7.8-1~bpo8+1) Wed, 19 Oct 2016 19:47:42 +0100 linux-signed (2.8~bpo8+1) Sat, 22 Oct 2016 13:01:02 +0100 linux (4.7.6-1~bpo8+1) Wed, 19 Oct 2016 11:41:53 +0200 - superseded the same day, so not signed linux (4.7.5-1~bpo8+2) Sat, 01 Oct 2016 20:52:46 +0100 linux-signed (2.6~bpo8+2) Thu, 06 Oct 2016 21:19:54 +0100 linux (4.7.5-1~bpo8+1) Fri, 30 Sep 2016 21:55:24 +0200 linux-signed (2.6~bpo8+1) Tue, 04 Oct 2016 02:59:54 +0100 linux (4.7.2-1~bpo8+1) Wed, 07 Sep 2016 19:59:14 +0200 - never signed Yes, we dropped the ball on that first upload - it never got signed at all. But since then the delay has been at worst 5 days and most recently <1 day. (NEW processing and buildd backlogs may also add a delay beyond what you see in the changelod dates.) And if you insist you want fixes a.s.a.p. you should be using unstable rather than waiting for the (usually) 5+ days for updates to hit testing and additional time for backports. (The most urgent updates can be uploaded to backports sooner, but I've seen no sign that you actually checked the urgency of any issues.) Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Hoare's Law of Large Problems: Inside every large problem is a small problem struggling to get out.
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