Am Sonntag, 23. November 2014, 12:59:06 schrieb Martin Steigerwald: > Am Donnerstag, 20. November 2014, 11:07:05 schrieb David Prévot: > > Hi, > > Hi David, > > > Le 20/11/2014 07:00, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : > > > Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2014, 17:17:34 schrieb David Prévot: > > >> A proper APT pinning is IMHO highly preferable. It could be a three > > >> lines file like: > > >> > > >> $ cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/testing > > >> Package: * > > >> Pin: release a=testing > > >> Pin-Priority: 150 > > > > > > This is no proper pinning for machines that use wheezy-backports package > > > cause it will upgrade all wheezy-backports packages to jessie > > > > That’s an incorrect statement (any priority 100 <= P < 500 would do), > > please have a better look at the apt_preferences(5) man page before > > spreading false information. Feel free to actually test it, and look at > > the “apt-cache policy $package“ output to get what is going on (it may > > help debugging in case something unexpected exist in your system). > > I highly dislike your tone. Before assuming I spread false information, how > about first investigation what is happening on my system? > > But I also agree that my "This is no proper" may have offended you as well – > as I boldy claimed the truth myself there. > > So lets see what I get on my system here and how this fits with the > apt_preferences manpage in *my* point of view and interpretation: [… apt upgrading all packages from wheezy-backports to testing as long as testing has higher priority as wheezy-backports …] > On any account I would find a owncloud backport, even with limited > functionality more desirable than a mixture of testing and wheezy on a > *server*. Still I also want the security updates and thus I moved owncloud > to jessie meanwhile. > > However even with apt-get install -t testing owncloud it just installed > libjs- underscore owncloud packages. I may look into manually upgraded > owncloud dependencies to jessie as well now. I did this with all php and libjs packages and now I only have these remaining at wheezy-backports: mondschein:~> apt-show-versions | grep backport | cut -d"/" -f1 btrfs-tools fonts-font-awesome fonts-wqy-microhei initramfs-tools linux-compiler-gcc-4.6-x86 open-vm-tools open-vm-tools-dkms openntpd So seems I am set for now as long as I ignore this systemd related packages apt-get wants to install maybe due to them being set as essential, I did not yet verify this. > So while I see that testing above wheezy-backports eases upgrade of owncloud > with all its dependencies at least on my system it would also upgrade all > other wheezy-backport packages to testing as well which is not what I want. Heck, maybe I just upgrade the box completely to Jessie in one of the next weeks. However, unless Owncloud upstream provides security updates for version 7 for a long enough time, in some way switching to a newer version of Owncloud during Jessie lifetime may as well be needed. But well, it could be handled similarily to iceweasel probably. Ciao, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7
Description: This is a digitally signed message part.