Re: recommend a netbook for Debian deployment?
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Mikhail Ramendik <mr@ramendik.ru> wrote:
> On 6 November 2013 15:01, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@lkcl.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Wookey <wookey@wookware.org> wrote:
>>
>> > These people support linux on cheap tablets:
>> > https://pengpod.com/products
>> > (dual boot with android - linux on the SD, but a lot more open than most
>> > random hardware you can buy)
>>
>> ah that's neal. yeah i'm deeply impressed by neal's entrepreneurial
>> spirit. the pengpod 700 and the 1000 went down extremely well. he's
>> now doing a crowdfunding project for the A31-based "uber"-tablet.
>
>
> The 1040 looks nice. It is out of my planned budget, but the 9.7 inch screen
> (non-widescreen) would mean I get more use out of it s a tablet too. (I
> really only need a tablet as a reader - for everything else I prefer a
> keyboard; and for reading, widescreen is quite bad).
>
> What I would really like to know is what kind of performance the *GPU* would
> deliver
*deep breath*... well... do you care if the performance benchmarks
are twice that of the nearest competition if, after a few hours of
heavy use the proprietary GPU software, which is so complex due to the
fundamental hardware design being so flexible (yet old) that it
corrupts the main OS and crashes it?
> and how well it's supported under GNU/Linux (as opposed to Android).
> The advertising describes GNU/Linux for "work". I want it for play :)
no. you don't. *do not* get *anything* that has imgtec PowerVR.
ask anyone who's worked with intel embedded atom SoCs. ask anyone
who's had an intel atom laptop with a PowerVR GPU. ask anyone who's
ever worked with TI ARM SoCs with PowerVR GPUs. and, last but not
least, go and find Luc Verbeghen's presentation (video) on the state
of embedded GPUs and fast-forward to the section covering PowerVR.
you DO NOT want - ever - a system that has PowerVR. ever.
>>
>> i
>> didn't want to alarm/discourage him, the fact that he's trying _at
>> all_ when so many others are going "yeah it'd be nice IF..." is just
>> amazing in itself... _but_... the A31 should instantly ring alarm
>> bells for anyone not just in the free software world but even in the
>> business world because it has powervr graphics.
>
>
> So what is wrong with that? Performance? Driver support?
the team that designed it has left the company. the remaining people
at imgtec are completely unable to deal with its complexity. so they
tweak it and dial up a few macros to get higher performance but they
fundamentally are incapable of fixing the software. it's a pity
because it's a fantastic design. go look up luc's talk.
>>
>>
>> > And the KDE plasma tablet is about to be announced (so I hear). Not sure
>> > exactly how long before you can buy one. Probably a couple of months or
>> > so, so
>> > definitely not 'available today'.
>>
>> that'll be me doing the hardware for that.
>
>
> ...and that's the main reason I am using Debian - the people on its mailing
> lists :)
yaaay :)
>>
>>
>> anyway anyone who'd like to follow along, it's all here:
>> http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/kde_tablet/news/
>
>
> Might be my fault but I could not find the basics there, as in CPU/GPU used,
> RAM, OpenGL status...
ok you won't, because it's a chassis. the CPU Card is a plugin
user-upgradeable module, reusing PCMCIA (PCCARD) if you remember that.
the *first* in the series will be an Allwinner A10 module, which has
its own news page:
http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/news/
yeees, that CPU Card runs debian. first thing i installed when i got it :)
> and, of course, how you can attach a keyboard. It does seem you are going
> for non widescreen which is kinda cool :)
lots going on - the first tablet will be 1024x600 (i'm not keen on it
personally, but the client's client are). after that we'll have cash
to make a whole stack of products whahey!
l.
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