Le 06/05/2013 14:53, Leonardo Canducci a écrit :> 2013/5/6 Brian Platt <brianplatt@hotmail.com>: >> Couple more are Shevalug, raspberry pi, pogoplug > They are all obsolete devices. Rpi need a recompiled OS (raspian) > while I'd like to use 'vanilla' debian. Why SheevaPlug may be obsolete ? Le 06/05/2013 15:12, Leonardo Canducci a écrit : > 2013/5/6 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@lkcl.net>: > >> kernel upgradeability on ARM devices is *never* easy :) at least on >> A10 devices it's not like you're spoiled for documentation and howtos. >> start from http://linux-sunxi.org and >> http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000 and see >> how you get on. > > That's bad news... so there is not one single board supported by > debian? What about OMAP kernels in the armhf port? Are there other > specific repositories with kernel updates? >> >> beaglebone black i've not looked into because it doesn't have SATA >> and because the limitations of the SoC itself when compared to the A10 >> have had to be "bolstered" by additional ICs. >> >>> I don't care for: >>> - GPIO >>> - graphics >> >> ... so the fact that the beaglebone black has to do HDMI via a >> separate IC is of no consequence to you, but what about SATA? > > SATA is interesting in a NAS perspective. Also worth considering that > BBB has half the RAM and NAND. >> >>> I made some research and read some wiki and it looks like the new >>> Beaglebone Black and the Cubieboard are both good choices (the former >>> probably having better support and the latter better specs). >> >> "probably" isn't quite true. it depends on how you rate an >> "official" SoC vendor's support vs rather large from-ground-up >> community-driven support. >> >> personally, given the fact that the people in the community have had >> to do the work themselves on the A10, that means that they're >> extremely knowledgeable now, and i'd rate their advice as being as >> good as if not better than that of an "official" SoC vendor. and >> probably more accessible, too. > > Well, I meant mostly community support... I was focused on the > specific card - instead of the SOC itself - and I guessed that > Beaglebone had a much larger userbase. I know A10 has been around for > a long time and many gadgets are base around that SOC. So Cubieboard > is better even in that regard? >> >> why don't you test that out by asking on each respective community? >> see how easy it is, how responsive they both are. > > I'll do >> >>> Which one wolud you recommend? Are there alternatives to consider? >> >> couple more on top of brian's list: odroid-u2, odroid-x2 (both are >> easy enough to convert to debian using a chroot bootstrap, see >> http://lkcl.net/reports/odroid-u2.html) - you can ignore the stuff >> about MALI. > > These are mid-range products (at least twice the price) with > desktop-like performance. Probably overkill for my purpose. >> >> it would help you enormously to put out a hardware spec. say, a >> minimum amount of RAM, minimum number of interfaces etc. > > I don't know exactly but I guess I need: > - ethernet > - 512MB ram or more > - up-to-date CPU > > since I'd like to run dokuwiki and experiment with selfoss, NAS (nfs), > owncloud and possibly freedombox stuff (once it gets ready to play > with) I have one Sheevaplug with dokuwiki and some others as media center (squeezebox), blog (wordpress), forum (phpbb), owncloud, ejabber, redmine, weather station. I have started a feature charts about ARM[1] SoC for plugs and derivatives. The kirkwood SoC is supported by debian and the linux kernel is maintain and updated[2]. More information about plugs with the Cyrius Debian's Howto[3]. The main problem of SheevaPlugs are the actual non support of the SD/MMC driver in mainline UBoot[4]. It's still in my ToDo tasks and will be available soon. A lot hardware derivatives exist. Software hack, tweaks, enhancements and documentations are largely available. Because SheevaPlug is a developer device, it's an unbrickable software base concept. Debian Installer is stable[5], still developed[6] and working fine. Sheevaplus can also easily target FreedomBox . Regards, +G. [1] https://doukki.net/doku.php?id=wiki:notes:arm-features-chart [2] http://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-image-kirkwood [3] http://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwood/sheevaplug/ [4] https://doukki.net/doku.php?id=wiki:tutoriels:uboot.howto [5] http://cdn.debian.net/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-armel/current/images/kirkwood/netboot/marvell/sheevaplug/ [6] http://cdn.debian.net/debian/dists/unstable/main/installer-armel/current/images/kirkwood/netboot/marvell/sheevaplug/
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