Re: Bug#425011: gcc-4.1: FTBFS on m68k and arm, multiple definitions of ffi_prep_closure
This isn't directed towards you, but a general remark is that all the
talk about dropping arm as a release architecture over the last couple
of years (for reasons that seem mostly beyond my control), and the
resulting uncertainty has definitely made most of my motivation to
work on the Debian ARM port disappear.
I don't think anyone enjoys working on a project that is in a
'maybe-sort-of-almost-dropped' state pretty much all the time.
Maybe the ARM port should just be dropped to have it over with.
Do you mean the "arm" port vs. "armel" and "armeb"? Or do you mean ARM
targets in general?
I don't have a problem dropping the "arm" port but keeping armel and
armeb, since the EABI stuff renders everything else obsolete. But if
you're suggesting that Debian should drop all ARM targets entirely, I'm
totally against that!
I think the problem with Debian for ARM targets is the same as for other
non-x86 targets, in that there are limited resources for support because
the required hardware and skills are hard to come by.
I would _gladly_ take on that responsibility, since I have the skills
*and* the hardware, if I could find a way to do it and still keep my
family fed (suggestions and purchase orders welcome!). It's a full-time
job for someone, and you aren't going to keep someone with the right
skills and hardware focused on it if they have to at the same time find
an income from somewhere else. It's too big a job. That's reality.
The limited opportunity I have for it now is often at the expense of
other project work and family time, which is _not_ the way to grow and
maintain a serious project.
Dunc-tank was a step in the right direction, and we see how that turned
Frankly, I think Debian is as awesome as it is _precisely because_ of
its devotion to non-x86 targets (among other reasons, of course). I
don't want to see that go away. Let's pool our resources, face reality,
and find a way to give Debian for ARM the time and attention it deserves.