Thanks Len its good to know what you folks are on about i am glad some one explained for the benefit of those just turning to arm CPU's,sharp zaurus sl-5500 PDA in my case(mabey),which uses softfloat.It sounds most sensible for the emulation/libs method.Anyway just you folks out there remember you have newbies listening in so to speak ;)so it would be helpful for good explanations for the average Joe like me ;)