Bug#383615: split out libaprutil1-dev sqlite, pgsql, ldap dependencies

["gmu 2k6" <gmu2006@gmail.com>]

On 8/21/06, Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> wrote:
> * "gmu 2k6"
>
> | it's not about disk space, it's about installing as few packages as
> | possible to have a clean selection with a minimum of update
> | needs/problems.
> |
> | if Debian is "the universal OS" then it should allow clean installs
> | without falling back to apt-build.
>
> This is a _development package_, not something which drags in lots of
> random on a nondeveloper's system.  And even if it was, it's just a
> few libraries and nothing complicated.  Compared with the extra
> overhead of maintaining a split libapr-dev, it's too much so we won't
> do it.
>
> | one of the major reasons I'm using Debian out of the binary
> | distros is that it allows me to install a minimal system and let
> | me decide which packages I want, most of the time. although
> | we are much better than RPM based distros which don't seem
> | to have a "Suggest" field some packages are not done right
> | regarding the features one can to enable/disable during
> | runtime.
>
> You can't disable the fact that libapr is linked with sqlite,
> postgres, ldap and more at runtime.

as I proposed you could build additional packages which
enable the db-backends.

> | just take the libwxgtk packages which requires esound, this
> | is only so because the packager did not split the package
> | in -base, -sound, etc. the point here is that wxWindows is
> | most likely used for the GUI abstraction and not for sound.
> | insert `apt-cache depends xchm` here.
>
> xchm doesn't depend on and sound on my system at least.

$ apt-cache depends xchm
xchm
 Depends: libc6
 Depends: libchm1
 Depends: libgcc1
 Depends: libstdc++6
 Depends: libwxbase2.6-0
 Depends: libwxgtk2.6-0
 Depends: libchm1
 Conflicts: <chmlib>

$ apt-cache depends libwxgtk2.6-0
libwxgtk2.6-0
 Depends: libatk1.0-0
 Depends: libc6
|Depends: libesd0
 Depends: libesd-alsa0
 Depends: libexpat1
 Depends: libfontconfig1
 Depends: libgcc1
|Depends: libgl1-mesa-glx
 Depends: <libgl1>
   libgl1-mesa-directfb
   libgl1-mesa-glide3
   libgl1-mesa-glx
   libgl1-mesa-swx11
 Depends: libglib2.0-0
|Depends: libglu1-mesa
 Depends: <libglu1>
   libglu1-mesa
 Depends: libgtk2.0-0
 Depends: libjpeg62
 Depends: libpango1.0-0
 Depends: libpng12-0
 Depends: libstdc++6
 Depends: libtiff4
 Depends: libwxbase2.6-0
 Depends: libx11-6

> | I'm using libaprutil1-dev to build Subversion >=1.3.x/1.4(rc)
> | and the dependency I saw with it is similar to installing some
> | font or graphics libs which require the whole Xorg baselibs
> | chain. I build Subversion, because Apache 2.2 is not in etch/sid
> | yet and so it is built against APR 1.0.x right now my own
> | -DLARGEFILE aka APR 1.2.x Subversion. btw, this does not
> | mean I'm using mod_dav_svn, svnserve is all I need as of know.
>
> You're aware that subversion 1.4rc is in experimental, right?

no, I wasn't but maybe I should start pinning some experimental
packages, thanks.

> I'm closing this bug since we have no interest in the extra overhead;
> sorry.

you don't have to be sorry, we did at least discuss my issue with it and
now that I see your point I know that it won't change and have to find
a different way to cope with it.