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Re: Results of the porter roll call (Was: Roll call for porters of architectures in sid and testing)



Hi Niels,

I don't know upto what point you are familiar with my history and its link to the powerpc
port, but it pains me to see that the powerpc port is left with so few porters, and that it 
may mean the port being dropped. I also have not really followed the mailing lists since 
a long time, and don't know who is actually managing the powerpc port, but giving the (1) and 
0.5 remark, i guess there is not a full porter.

So given that, and provided debian may not see a problem again in me becoming active, i may
be interested in becoming active again as powerpc maintainer. Not sure what category you 
can include me in though, and what the formalities would be should i become active (and welcome)
in debian again.

Also, i am not really sure of the amount of time i will be able to devote to debian, and i will
have to take my powerpc hardware out of the storage area i put it in, but i guess it should be enough
to do powerpc porting work, provided other folk help me out. That said, i am also interested in the
powerpcspe port, as i am (slowly) working on a open-hardware Freescale P1010 based board.

Anyway, please let me know if there is anything i can do.

Friendly,

Sven Luther

On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 09:45:35AM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The final results are in:
> 
> Summary table:
> Arch           || DDs || NMs/DMs || Other || Total
> ---------------++-----++---------++-------++------
> armel          ||  3  ||       0 ||     1 ||    4
> armhf          ||  3  ||       1 ||     2 ||    6
> hurd-i386      ||  5  ||       0 ||     3 ||    8
> ia64           || *0* ||       0 ||     3 ||    3
> kfreebsd-amd64 ||  4  ||       0 ||     2 ||    6
> kfreebsd-i386  ||  4  ||       0 ||     2 ||    6
> mips           ||  1  ||       0 ||     1 ||    2
> mipsel         ||  1  ||       0 ||     1 ||    2
> powerpc[1]     || (1) ||       0 ||     2 ||   2.5?
> s390x          || *0* ||       0 ||     0 ||   *0*
> sparc[2]       ||  1  ||       0 ||     0 ||    1
> 
> [1] The (1) and .5 is from a "I am not primarily a porter [...]"-remark,
> so I wasn't sure how to count it.
> 
> [2] By the looks of it, if sparc was replaced by sparc64, we could be
> looking at 3 in the "Other"-column rather than 0.
> 
> NMs/DMs include DMs and people currently in NM process.  The "Other"
> column may include people who said they would like to become porters
> (but would need to be introduced to the job) and thus may imply some
> active recruiting from the current porters.  This is at least true for
> hurd-i386.
> 
> 
> 
> The current policy says that we require "5 developers" (i.e. DDs) for
> release architectures[AP], so based on that only amd64, i386 and
> hurd-i386 would pass this requirement.  It is quite possible we need to
> revise that requirement, but most of the architectures would (still) do
> well to attract a few more (DD) porters.
>   I have attached a file with my notes of who are behind those numbers.
>  If your name is missing or you believe I have miscounted something[CD]
> for an architecture listed in the table above, please reply to this
> email *promptly* (CC'ing me explicitly is fine) with your concerns or
> corrections.
> 
> At this time, I have *not* updated the arch qualification table yet.  I
> will do that in a couple of days.  We will also follow up on this in the
> next bits from the release team.
> 
> ~Niels
> 
> [AP] http://release.debian.org/jessie/arch_policy.html
> 
> [CD] I may (or may not) have been caffeine-deprived when I did the
> counting.  You are free to make assumptions about whether that has
> affected my ability to do addic^Htion or parsing your email(s) properly.
> 

> Summary table:
> Arch           || DDs || NMs/DMs || Other || Total
> ---------------++-----++---------++-------++------
> armel          ||  3  ||       0 ||     1 ||    4
> armhf          ||  3  ||       1 ||     2 ||    6
> hurd-i386      ||  5  ||       0 ||     3 ||    8
> ia64           || *0* ||       0 ||     3 ||    3
> kfreebsd-amd64 ||  4  ||       0 ||     2 ||    6
> kfreebsd-i386  ||  4  ||       0 ||     2 ||    6
> mips           ||  1  ||       0 ||     1 ||    2
> mipsel         ||  1  ||       0 ||     1 ||    2
> powerpc[1]     || (1) ||       0 ||     2 ||   2.5?
> s390x          || *0* ||       0 ||     0 ||   *0*
> sparc          ||  1  ||       0 ||     0 ||    1
> 
> [1] Roger Leigh: "I am not primarily a porter [...]".
> 
> armel: Wookey (DD), Gatis Visnevskis (!DD), Nobuhiro Iwamatsu (DD), Steve McInture (DD)
> armhf: Jeremiah Foster (!DD, but NM?), Wookey (DD), Justus Winter (!DD), Lennart Sorensen (!DD), Nobuhiro Iwamatsu (DD), Steve McInture (DD)
> hurd-i386: Samuel Thibault (DD), Barry deFreese (DD), Thomas Schwinge (!DD), Pino Toscano (DD), Svante Signell (!DD), Michael Banck (DD), Guillem Jover (DD), Zhang Cong (!DD)
> kfreebsd-amd64: Christoph Egger (DD), Axel Beckert (DD), Petr Salinger (!DD), Robert Millan (DD), Steven Chamberlain (!DD), Guillem Jover (DD)
> kfreebsd-i386: Christoph Egger (DD), Axel Beckert (DD), Petr Salinger (!DD), Robert Millan (DD), Steven Chamberlain (!DD), Guillem Jover (DD)
> mips: Graham Whaley (!DD), Andreas Barth (DD)
> mipsel: Graham Whaley (!DD), Andreas Barth (DD)
> powerpc: [Roger Leigh (DD)], Geoff Levand (!DD), Lennart Sorensen (!DD)
> sparc: Axel Beckert (DD)
> 
> Maybes for ia64 (?): Martin Lucina (!DD), Émeric MASCHINO (!DD), Mark Wickens (!DD)
> 
> 
> (Some inaccuracies can occur in the (xN) below; /me got confused and may have lost count for some of them)
> 
> Items suggested in the roll call:
> * test packages: armel (x3), armhf (x4), hurd-i386 (x4), kfreebsd-amd64 (x6), kfreebsd-i386 (x6), mips, mipsel, powerpc (x3), sparc
> * fix toolchain issues: armel, armhf (x3), hurd-i386 (x3), mips, mipsel, powerpc (x2)
> * triage arch-specific bugs: armel (x3), armhf (x4), hurd-i386 (x4), kfreebsd-amd64 (x5), kfreebsd-i386 (x5), mips (x2), mipsel (x2), powerpc (x2), sparc
> * fix arch-related bugs: armel (x2), armhf (x4), hurd-i386 (x5), kfreebsd-amd64 (x5), kfreebsd-i386 (x5), mips (x2), mipsel (x2), powerpc (x2)
> * maintain buildds: armhf, hurd-i386 (x2), kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, mips, mipsel
> 
> Items suggested by porters in their mails:
> + test d-i "when needed": hurd-i386, powerpc (x3)
> + maintain arch-related pkgs: kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386
> + maintain non-DSA porter box: hurd-i386 (x2), kfreebsd-amd64
> + maintain production system of $arch: sparc/Wheezy
> + can offer hardware access[1]: powerpc (might be ppc64), sparc
> + eglibc issues: hurd-i386 (x2), kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386
> + maintain+test cross-toolchains for $arch: armel, armhf
> 
> No porter mail from: s390x
>   - Interested porters, but no DDs: ia64
>   - waived: amd64 i386
>   - being removed: s390 (agreement from Wheezy)
> 
> Non-porters, but expressed an interest in the port or/and architecture:
>   David Kuehling: mipsel
>   Meelis Roos: ppc, sparc64 (parisc)
>   Peter Green: armhf (possibly any-arm)
> 
> Other:
>   alpha: Bill MacAllister (!DD), Kieron Gillespie (!DD), Mark Wickens (!DD)
>   arm64: Wookey (DD), Steve McInture (DD)
>   parisc/hppa: Helge Deller (!DD), John David Anglin (!DD)
>   ppc64: Steven Gawroriski (!DD), Hiroyuki Yamamoto (!DD), Frank Fegert (!DD)
>   sh4: Nobuhiro Iwamatsu (DD)
>   sparc64: Steven Gawroriski (!DD), Kieron Gillespie (!DD), Rainer Herbst (!DD)
>   x32: Adam Borowski (NM)
> 
> [1] Restrictions may apply.


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