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Re: Weired things on Dual-Core AMD64



Am Montag, 2. April 2007 15:54 schrieb Lennart Sorensen:
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 03:49:56PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
> > I just got a brandnew notebook with AMD64 X2 cpu. Formerly I had a single
> > core AMD64 cpu. Running the new one, I dicsovered some new things. Maybe
> > you can solve this or even explain it.
> >
> > 1. The easy thing: On websides, animated gifs or pictures are running
> > twice as fast as they should. Maybe this is a konqueror related problem.
> > Does someone discover this, too ?
>
> There have been problems with some chipsets (mainly ATI, but also a few
> nvidia ones) where the system time would run at double speed.  I believe
> it was caused by an irq routing issue (acpi/bios bugs mainly it seems)
> which caused the timer irq to be received twice, which made time move at
> double speed.  Newer kernels seem to have fixed that.  Which kernel did
> you install?

At the moment I am running the stock kernel. It is 2.6.18-4-amd64. A selfbuilt 
kernel crashed sometimes at bootup. I changed nothing but kernel-timer from 
250Hz to 1000Hz. This might be the problem (there was another post relating 
to this behaviour by someone else.) The stock kernel is running fine.

>
> > 2. The one, I am looking for a week now: It is not possible, to get my
> > Atheros AR5000G card running at startup. The card does never see the
> > accesspoint at startup. Strange: When the system is up, makling a
> > "/etc/init.d/network restart" let it work. Where is the difference to the
> > startup sequence ? I could not find. Any help is preceated.
>
> No idea.  I still haven't had much luck getting wireless to work with
> linux.

Most of the users use ndiswrapper, but I am not a friend of it. Formerly I had 
broadcom, which ran fine with native drivers. The support by the vendors of 
wireless cards is sucking ! Meanwhile I checked a little bit more and 
discovered the problem either at madwifi-tools or the drivers itself. It 
might be an initialisation problem. It is fancy: Doing /etc/init.d/networking 
twice ore three times does the trick. The madwifi.driver does not see the AP 
each time, so it does not get the dhcpleases.

>
> > 3. Last there is a wish: Is it possible, to activate the logo at
> > kernel-start in the stock kernels in the future ? I like those TWO
> > penguins at boot ! Yes, natuarally I could build my own kernel, but it
> > would be nice, if they would be in the stock kernel, too. I do not see
> > any technical problems with it, or are there any ?
>
> I find framebuffer drivers screw up so many X drivers, that they aren't
> worth the hassle.  And I hardly ever reboot (I guess laptops might be
> rebooted more often than a desktop).
>

I never had problems with it so far. Maybe it is on Intel-cpus , I always use 
AMD.

> > 4. Just a general question, not amd64-related: module-assistant makes a
> > link to the kernel-headers, not to the kernel-sources itself. I do not
> > quite understand the differnce between the kernel-headers and the
> > kernel-sources. Can someone explain the difference between the two ones
> > for me, and what policy Debian is running ?
>
> The kernel headers package contains the configuration and header files
> matching your current kernel.  The kernel source contains unconfigured
> sources (which include headers).  The configuration part is rather
> important when building modules to match a kernel.  And when building
> other things you only ever need the headers, since the source files are
> only used for building the kernel.  Hence the need for kernel-headers
> package and no need for kernel sources.
>

Ah, that does it explain. Kernel-headers are need to build kernel-modules, 
kernel-sources are need to build the kernel itself. 

> After all you don't need the sources to libc to compile a c program,
> just the standard c library header files.
>
> --
> Len Sorensen

BTW: I managed to get a new Brother printer (printer+scanner) running in 
debian-amd64. It is DCP-115c aka MFC-210C (including some others , too). To 
do this, I had to rebuilt a redhat-package for 64-bit and add an entry 
in /etc/udev/libsane. It was a little tricky. I could write a little how-to 
for debian-amd64. There was none in the web, only for I386. The printerpart I 
could not get running on debian-amd64, but I could not find out, why. Maybe 
it is a simple problem of rights or the driver is incompatible (it is a 
binary) with 64-bit. 

So, please leave me a note, if this howto is interesting and someone likes to 
make it popular for the community.


Best regards

Hans
 



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