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Re: Which linux flavor for amd64?



On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 12:58:46PM +0000, jjvoyager@netzero.com wrote:
> I had a Win98/knoppix p2 machine that was flooded by katrina.  I have a new system:
> cpu AMD Athlon 64 3200+
> mb evga 133-k8-nf41-xx uses the nForce4 chipset
> pcie video card nVidia GeForce 6600LE (do not intend to use SLI functionality)
> OS WinXP Home + SP2 preinstalled on a 160GB SATA HD
> Use dual (VGA) monitors under win
> 
> Finished my break-in period with XP, and I'd like to establish a dual boot system with linux.  I think I can hack resizing the ntfs volume, repartition the disk, install linux and manage the boot loader.  My initial questions concern which linux version should I install?
> 
> Constraints/desires:
> 1. I have a dialup connection, therefore I need to install from cd/dvd.

Hmm, tricky.  I used to maintain a debian unstable system up to date on
dial up.  Every night I connected and asked it to download the updated
packages and hangup afterwards.  Worked great.  Install I did at my
parents place using cable modem.

> 2. I'd like to use the dual vga monitors off the nVidia card using xinerama (not nVidia's TwinView)

You can run xinerama on the nvidia.  I know people doing that.

> 3. Other hardware: Agere Systems PCI Soft Modem using SV92PL-T00 chipset, (can hook up a serial Creative Modem Blaster if the soft modem can't function under linux), an external usb hd, and a Samsung scx-4216f printer/fax/copy/scanner using either usb/parallel.

Soft modems are usually a pain.  External serial would work great.

I see no support for the printer.  No idea what would be involved or
what their driver does and how it would integrate with something normal
like cupsys.

> Options considered:
> 1. Live CD Knoppix v4.0.2 provides a hd-installer, but some Knoppers say if you are going to install Debian anyway, you are better off doing a straight Debian install. Moreover Live Knoppix detects neither the soft modem nor the printer.  Haven't made the effort with the xf86conf file to see if I can get dual monitors driven by the one card before deciding between these options.
> 2. Install official stable (sarge) Debian v3.1r1 i386.  DVDs easy to purchase.

Won't install on hardware that new.

> 3. Install unofficial (sarge) Debian v3.1r01 amd64.  CDs (or DVDs?) can be purchased.

Not sure anyone has made disks of it.  And it won't install on hardware
that new.

> 4. Install testing (etch) Debian which supposedly has internal amd64 support.  Can DVDs/CDs be found?

No DVD/CDs for testing.  Netinstall cds exist, which can grab actual
needed packages from internet.  Discs are usually only made near to
release time, which is at least 8 or 9 months away for etch (testing).

> Additonal notes that may/may not be applicable to the above options:
> a) Samsung has a linux driver for their printer which may give functionality under any of the above options.
> b) nVidia has a NFORCE-Linux-x86_64-1.0-0319-pkg1.run which adds support for (nVidia)AMD64 nForce 430/410 mbs.  I suppose this might add support for my mb too?

Any recent system already supports the majority of devices on nforce4
boards.  I wouldn't touch that one from nvidia.

> c) nVidia has a NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8178-pkg1.run which adds i386 and/or amd64/em64t support for their GeForce 6xxx video cards.

Some distributions have packages of those drives, which work very well.
Nvidia's installer makes a nice mess of many systems, due to making
assumptions about the layout of the system.

> Suggestions on which linux flavor and which add-on drivers I should install are welcomed.

Well I am a debian fanatic, so that's what I would run. :)  Sarge is
probably too old to install on that hardware, but testing ought to work
well, and they like people testing the beta2 for testing's installer
(named etch).

Len Sorensen



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