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Re: Rescue CD wanted: 2.6.10, SATA and XFS



On 06/10/05 11:23:55AM -0400, David Wood wrote:
> Sadly, when measuring a filesystem's reputation, if (controlling as best 
> you can for hardware faults) 9 out of 10 people say it works great, never 
> had a problem, while one says it blew up on them, that's a _terrible_ 
> filesystem.

True. And that's why I don't use reiserfs, I've had it blow up in my face a
few times. The last time was incredibly fun to debug because when the box
would crash the screen would blank so that I couldn't see the oops. I had
to hook up a serial console just to figure out that it was reiserfs causing
the issues and even then reiserfsck and mounting the filesystem both said
it was just fine even though it would oops and hang when accessing a
certain file. Once I figured out which file, I deleted it, backed up the
volume and formatted it XFS and haven't had a problem since.

IIRC that was around a year ago so that particular issue might be fixed,
but I'm still not a fan of reiserfs or Hans Reiser either.

> 
> I need to check, but I think, statistically, XFS is faring _worse_ than 9 
> out of 10, on this list at least.

Statistically you might be right, for instance there was a problem in 2.6.8 
or 2.6.9 IIRC, that caused problems with XFS even though I don't think it was
directly XFS' fault. And somehow I avoided all of those problems, even
using "risky" software like swsusp2.  But the only issue I've ever had with 
XFS is that if it crashes during a write the file being written to may be NULL u
filled, but that's pretty rare, at least for me.

Jim.

> 
> On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Jim Crilly wrote:
> 
> >On 06/10/05 10:50:43AM -0400, Wes Williams wrote:
> >>I've been very happy with XFS and have migrated TOWARDS XFS all around, 
> >>save
> >>the boot partition.  BTW, being able to boot from XFS would be a nice 
> >>touch!
> >
> >I agree, I'm using XFS on i386, Alpha and Sparc64 without any issues.
> >
> >>What problems in particular are you experiencing with XFS and NFS/Samba?
> >
> >I don't use Samba much any more since I don't have any Windows boxes but in
> >the past I never had an issue with it, but I can't speak about NFS.
> >
> >Just a "me too" message. I've been using XFS since SGI put out their 1.0
> >Linux port and while there have been issues, I consider it much better than
> >reiserfs.
> >
> >Jim.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Jim Crilly [mailto:jim@why.dont.jablowme.net]
> >>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:34 AM
> >>To: Thomas Steffen
> >>Cc: Ed; debian-amd64@lists.debian.org
> >>Subject: Re: Rescue CD wanted: 2.6.10, SATA and XFS
> >>
> >>
> >>On 06/10/05 12:09:35PM +0200, Thomas Steffen wrote:
> >>>On 6/10/05, Ed <edd@avenuedesign.net> wrote:
> >>>>Knoppix meets the requirements. Beware XFS with NFS and/or Samba. I have
> >>>>recently moved all my clients systems off XFS.
> >>>
> >>>I agree. As I posted before, I am not happy with XFS either, but I
> >>>have not made the effort yet to change it. I will probably change the
> >>>system partition to reiserfs as soon as the system is up again :-)
> >>
> >>OT, but IMO reiserfs is a huge stepbackwards from XFS...
> >>
> >>>
> >>>And Knoppix does support SATA now? Unfortunately, my mainbord has no
> >>>ATA emulation, so I do need the SATA drivers from kernel 2.6.10 or
> >>>later. Can you recommend a "small" variant of Knoppix? I do have ADSL,
> >>>but 700 MB still take some time...
> >>
> >>Knoppix 3.9 comes with 2.6.11, so if your driver is in 2.6.10 you should 
> >>be
> >>fine. If you use BitTorrent the download should fly, according to the
> >>tracker there's 400 seeds on the EN version.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>Thomas
> >>>
> >>
> >>Jim.
> >>
> >>
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