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RE: Renaming this list into debian-amd64

Let me clarify...

The architecture formerly named x86-64, now named amd64, was developed as an open standard, therefore it's not something we can license.  AMD64 is the new name of x86-64.  That's the architecture, the instruction set, and the technology we use to bring that to market.  x86-64 ceases to exist.

However, x86_64 still exists.  It's the string in Linux describing the platform.  Much in the same way that i386 and i586 refer to the x86 instruction set, x86_64 refers to the amd64 instruction set.  

If Intel produces a product that uses the AMD64 specification, it will also run binaries built for ARCH=x86_64.  ...but in the same way that Athlon XP & Athlon MP are x86 products, Intel's new processors would be AMD64 products.  

I suggest consistency, plain and simple.  If there exists a debian-i586 mailing list for discussing the x86 port, then this list should actually be called debian-x86_64 (with an alias to the old debian-x86-64 name).  If such a list is called debian-x86, then this list should be called debian-amd64.  

We don't care either way as long as it makes sense to you and to people looking for this mailing list.

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Jungowski [mailto:martin@jungowski.de]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:53 AM
To: debian-x86-64@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Renaming this list into debian-amd64

I think that's the point - x86-64 is an open standard and there are
rumors that Intel bought a license and is going to introduce an x86-64
processor too.
AMD64 would mean it's only for 64-bit AMD CPUs, that's why I'd say we
should stick with x86-64

On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 12:30, Ian Norton wrote:
> I would tend to agree here, 
> afaik the family is also known as k8, 
> is it fair to say, that AMD64 is AMDs implelentation of x86-64, and IA64 is
> intels implemenatation of IA64 :-), some other chip company might implement
> x86-64 aswell, its all very odd,
> Ian
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 12:45:54PM +0200, Martin Jungowski wrote:
> > I'd say it whould remain x86-64 since that is more technical. AMD64
> > sounds like a marketing thing to me, after all they don't call their
> > Athlon XP and Duron AMD32
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 08:37, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> > > * Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.org> [2003-08-21 18:53]:
> > > > I wonder if it would be worth renaming this list into ?debian-amd64? which
> > > > 
> > > > If nobody objects, I guess that I should assume (silent) acknowledgement and
> > > > ask listmaster people to rename this list and adjust the web archive.
> > > 
> > > I agree with renaming it to -amd64.  Just make sure there's an alias
> > > for -x86-64.
> > > -- 
> > > Martin Michlmayr
> > > tbm@cyrius.com
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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