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Re: alpha and hppa removal from unstable/experimental



On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 03:41:17PM +0200, Thibaut VARENE wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net> wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 12:00:26PM +0200, Thibaut VARENE wrote:
> >> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Mark Hymers <mhy@debian.org> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > As mentioned in the recent ftp-team meeting minutes, we're planning to
> >> > remove alpha and hppa from unstable.  They were removed from testing
> >> > before the squeeze release and there's no sign that they will be release
> >> > architectures for wheezy.  As such, we're planning to remove them from
> >> > unstable and experimental in the next few days.  buildd support for
> >> > unstable and experimental will also be ended at that time, but will
> >> > obviously continue for lenny updates / security builds.
> >> >
> >> > Before we remove the architectures, archives will be taken for anyone
> >> > who wants to take a copy of the dump to use elsewhere.  These dumps will
> >> > be made available on request.
> >>
> >> Just curious:
> >> 1) what's the cost of letting the unstable buildds run on a "don't
> >> care" basis? (question which I asked before and which remained
> >> unanswered afaik)
> >> 2) what's up with the FTPmasters' minutes which stated the hppa
> >> archive would be moved to debian-ports?
> >
> > As clearly explained in the mail to debian-devel-announce, it's the
> > porters job to do the transition. Currently debian-ports can't accept a
> > new port due to disk space issue. We already tried to upgrade them, but
> > it failed. The porters wantijng a new port on debian-ports.org should
> > find a person in Paris who can go to the place and fix the issue (which
> > probably means also buying a new hard drive).
> 
> So, it seems this reads "it's your [porters] job to do the transition,
> but anyway, we can't accept your contribution since our infrastructure
> is currently not ready and it will also be /your/ [porters] job to fix

Wrong!

Note that contrary to what a lot of people think, debian-ports is not 
part of the Debian infrastructure. It is run by (not enough) volunteers,
partly on Debian money, partly on sponsoring and partly on volunteer 
funds. I am currently in contact with the DPL to try to improve the 
situation. 

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Aurelien Jarno	                        GPG: 1024D/F1BCDB73
aurelien@aurel32.net                 http://www.aurel32.net

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