I had my mail prog spit chips and die with many many sparks and i've lost all my archived mail . So could some nice sould please send me the url for Alan Cox's patches, and the tulip NIC site? And Mikolaj, could you please send me the glibc kernel patches for the lchown() stuff? regards, -- Jean-Paul Blaquiere bob , Q-Net Australia (08) 9386 1178 japester@q-net.net.au # Insert witty comment here #