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Hi Jason,
I'm reading on-line on using debootstrap and I'm
stuck on the first part, making the partition on the target media for the
FS.
I read ahead and installed debootstrap and
build-essentials.
But the first part says to use gparted, and I only
have fdisk or parted.
I don't know for sure how to make it, other than
ext 4.
Like what other flags do I need on the partition
and it stated something about blocks at the beginning.
Thanks if anyone can help.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 5:40
PM
Subject: Re: How to Install Basic Debian
CLI System with Networking and screen reader
If you're genuinely dissatisfied with the options provided by the Debian
installer, you can always use Debootstrap to install Debian from the command
line, and choose exactly the packages you want.
On 31/5/23 00:21, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
Glenn,
I just installed in a
Virtual environment using the Latest Debian Net Install iso.
Nothing said "something
else".
These were the
choices.
1)
Debian desktop environment, (*)
2)
... GNOME,
3)
... xfce,
4)
... GNOME
Flashback,
5)
... KDE Plasma,
6)
... Cinnamon,
7)
... MATE, (*)
8)
... LXDE,
9)
... LXQt,
10)
... web server,
11)
... ssh server,
12)
... standard system utilities, (*)
1,
7 and 12 will be installed as default if you do nothing.
I just did another install just selecting 12 but I
didn't have Internet, I probably could use those commands someone gave us,
but without Internet to access my email and see what those commands are, I'm
up a dry creek without a paddle.
nmcli and nmtui need to be installed with standard
system utilities #12.
Regards,
David
David,
It said a choice was called:
"something else".
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 11:01
PM
Subject: Re: How to Install Basic
Debian CLI System with Networking and screen reader
What was the
"something else"? I don't know, and I can't tell you unless you
tell me.
This page says you
will have choices, but doesn't list the choices:
It does say that right
at package selection you have a working Debian system.
The Package Selection
part says this helpful thing.
The “Desktop
environment” task
will install a graphical desktop environment.
The
instructions referenced above with the link says the default graphical
desktop environment is GNOME but I've found that it installs
MATE.
I
cannot find anywhere where it tells me where the Package Selections are,
so I made a vmware installation of the latest Debian Net
Install.
1)
Debian desktop environment, (*)
2)
... GNOME,
3)
... xfce,
4)
... GNOME
Flashback,
5)
... KDE Plasma,
6)
... Cinnamon,
7)
... MATE, (*)
8)
... LXDE,
9)
... LXQt,
10)
... web server,
11)
... ssh server,
12)
... standard system utilities, (*)
1,
7 and 12 will be installed as default if you do nothing.
So for a CLI system,
I'm going to just install 12, standard
system utilities.
But
first since I already have a virtual system, I am going to install the
Default:
1)
Debian desktop environment, 7) ... MATE, and 12) ...
standard system utilities.
I deleted the Virtual
Debian installation and reinstalled just picking #12, standard system
utilities.
This time I had no
networking like I had with the Default installation, 1, 7, and 12.
Also the programs
nmcli and nmtui both were not available, so I have no way to access the
Internet.
It might be my Virtual
Box settings, I've had to play around with them before to get
connectivity, but the default settings would not allow me to ping google.com.
So it looks like
you'll still need to either install a GUI then purge the GUI programs
for MATE or connect to Ethernet or use the difficult for me to remember
console commands to connect. My notebook only has
WiFi..
Regards,
David
David,
The way the menus were laid out over SSH,
it sounded like #13 was
something else
But I wasn't sure if it was stating that
this was #13, but all the other choices were desktop environments,
which I knew I didn't want.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023
1:46 PM
Subject: Re: How to Install
Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and screen reader
Glenn,
You didn't say what choice #13 is.
Just select nothing at all.
Then get smxi and install your console browsers and
utilities.
Download and unzip and the file you want to run is "smxi". So
chmod +x that file and run it using root from the directory you
downloaded it to by using ./smxi the smxi script will move itself
where it belongs.
Run smxi as root and follow the prompts to update and upgrade
then go to Program Install and install Console Browsers,
Console Utilities and Ceni which is an accessible network
manager.
Then you'll have a functional console system just remember the
command for Ceni has a capital "C". Install nmcli and nntui
when you have networking using "apt install nmcli nntui".
Does anyone remember the very old text menu for Debian? It
allowed users to select programs by description, they were all
console interface programs.
Regards,
David
Does
this install anything CLI only?
I ran it, and the menus via SSH
are sketchy, I wanted to select "something
else" and I think
it is #13, but I was afraid of doing a desktop install,
because if I accidentally did that, the OMV won't install, and
I would have
to start over with my Debian CLI
setup.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff
Shang" <geoff@QuiteLikely.com>
To:
<debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org>
Sent:
Tuesday, May 30, 2023 2:52 AM
Subject: Re: How to Install Basic
Debian CLI System with Networking and
screen
reader
> On Tue, 30 May 2023, D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
wrote:
>
>> I don't even know what you're talking
about. If I knew what your message
>> meant and how
to do it, I'd gladly do it, but I don't understand
your
>> message, someone here must.
>
> In
Debian, there is a package called tasksel. The program that
it
> provides runs as part of the installation, but you can
also presumably run
> it at any time.
>
> This
is the part of the installation where you can choose categories of
> software which wil be installed. This is the part
where I said that you
> can install a text only ssytem but
not installing any of the desktop
>
environments.
>
> If I run tasksel on my installed
system, I get the following screen:
>
> Software
selection
> ------------------
>
> You can
choose to install one or more of the following predefined
>
collections of software.
>
> 1. Debian
desktop environment 4. ... GNOME Flashback 7. ...
MATE 10.
> web server
> 2. ...
GNOME
5. ... KDE Plasma 8. ...
LXDE 11.
> SSH server
> 3. ...
Xfce
6. ... Cinnamon 9. ...
LXQt 12.
> laptop
>
> (Enter the items or
ranges you want to select, separated by spaces.)
>
>
Choose software to install:
>
>
>
> This
has changed a bit over time. You can see in the above list
that
> options 1 through 9 are all GUI-related, with Web
Server, SSH Server and
> Laptop as the remaining
ptions. I know in the past there were things like
>
print server.
>
> Anyway, Samuel is suggesting
reporting a bug against the tasksel package,
> requesting
that a "textual desktop" option be added and listing which
> packages that this option should install.
>
>
You can use reportbug to do this.
>
> I've not used
reportbug in some time so I can't really speak to using it,
> but it should be installed and I'm guessing there's
documentation for it.
>
> HTH,
> Geoff.
>
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