Re: a usible desktop
>>>>> "K0LNY" == K0LNY Glenn <glenn@ervin.email> writes:
K0LNY> or something like that, and it isn't much better. So I'm
K0LNY> wondering, is the Debian desktop any better?
I generally strongly regret getting into conversations like this, and
I'll admit that the subject line of this thread gives me concern.
Obviously there are people who are blind or who use screen readers or
magnifiers who do use both Debian and Ubuntu.
They may have requirements different than you and what works for them
may not work for you.
But starting out the conversation implying that the desktops aren't
usable in a global sense throws dirt on a lot of hard work people have
done over the years.
I hear that Ubuntu is not usable to you with your requirements.
I hear your frustration there, and I hope you find the solution that
works best for you.
here goes.
I use GNOME on Debian.
Other than an annoying bug getting up to the top bar that was discussed
previously on this list, I find GNOME with Orca quite usable.
(super-v and a few tabs gets up to the top bar).
I use terminal mode in emacspeak for interacting with console apps; I
don't find gnome-terminal good enough.
I've been told that using brltty for console apps and Orca for graphical
apps might make me happy enough to ditch terminal mode inside emacspeak,
but what I have works for me well enough I have not gotten around to
trying that.
My suspicion though is that Debian's GNOME is not going to work much
better than Ubuntu's GNOME.
So it's probably the case that you and I have different requirements.
Other people find mate to be a better fit.
I find that whenever I engage in discussions like this, I face a lot of
judgment or frustration.
Someone is upset that something works for me and not for them generally
because they have different needs. Or they have strong opinions about
how the world ought to work in some absolute sense.
In the interest of setting clear boundaries, I will disengage quickly
from any discussion where it feels like that's happening to me.
I am however happy to discuss what I have, how I make it work for me,
etc.
My job is not to make it work for you or to argue it ought to be good
enough for you.
I hope that you find the tools that allow you to be most
productive--Linux or not--based on your needs.
I realize this is coming across as defensive.
I just find that way too much of the time I open up about how I work, I
get told that I'm going about being blind all wrong, and I've lost
patience with that over the years:-)
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