Re: [fenrir-screenreader] Re: fenrir installation (fwd)
an upcoming competitor to espeakup and similar programs. Written in
python and running in userland not kernel space. Installs correctly or
archlinux using pip3 install fenrir-screenreader but not on debian since
debian places non-source files in locations fenrir doesn't expect. If a
way exists in python to check for debian system this could maybe get
modified and have fenrir-screenreader work on debian too.
On Sun, 2 Feb 2020, Fran Torres wrote:
> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2020 07:44:05
> From: Fran Torres <frantorresgallego@gmail.com>
> To: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com>
> Cc: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: [fenrir-screenreader] Re: fenrir installation (fwd)
> Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2020 12:44:24 +0000 (UTC)
> Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
>
> Hello all,
>
> what is fenrrir?
> what differences have between fenrrir and speakup?
>
> Fran.
>
> 2020-02-02 13:35 GMT+01:00, Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com>:
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2020 06:10:40
> > From: chrys <chrys@linux-a11y.org>
> > Reply-To: fenrir-screenreader@freelists.org
> > To: fenrir-screenreader@freelists.org
> > Subject: [fenrir-screenreader] Re: fenrir installation
> >
> > Howdy,
> >
> >> pip3 install fenrir-screenreader and that should work on any linux
> >> distribution.
> > well right, in theory it should. in reality it does place the configuration
> > files at a wrong installation path. i did not figure whats the issue as the
> > same
> > setup.py works perfectly on my arch machine. so the issue seems to be the
> > way
> > how Debian handles non source files in setup.py files with pip3.
> >
> > If anyone knows about the reason, let me know.
> >
> > here the setup file for pip:
> >
> > https://github.com/chrys87/fenrir/blob/master/setup.py
> >
> > cheers chrys
> >
> > Am 31.01.20 um 17:34 schrieb Jude DaShiell:
> >
> >> Another way to install fenrir is:
> >> pip3 install fenrir-screenreader and that should work on any linux
> >> distribution.
> >> Sometimes pip install fenrir-screenreader works better but with the
> >> transition from python2 to python3 perhaps use of pip might be a bit
> >> dangerous until python2 is finally off of standard linux distributions.
> >> It's also possible those using pip or pip3 for the first time will be
> >> advised to upgrade pip and this isn't hard and the older pip will be
> >> removed once an upgrade happens.
> >>
> >> On Fri, 31 Jan 2020, chrys wrote:
> >>
> >>> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 10:47:35
> >>> From: chrys <chrys@linux-a11y.org>
> >>> Reply-To: fenrir-screenreader@freelists.org
> >>> To: Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu>, fenrir-screenreader@freelists.org
> >>> Subject: [fenrir-screenreader] Re: Testing
> >>>
> >>> Howdy Ollie,
> >>>
> >>> On Arch its quite easy to install fenrir as it is in AUR.
> >>> # i still use aurman, but you can of course? use the AURhelper of your
> >>> choice
> >>> aurman -S fenrir-git
> >>>
> >>> to install fenrir if you run pulseaudio, the sound card is locked by the
> >>> pulseaudio instance of your user. As fenrir runs currently as root an
> >>> second
> >>> instance of Pulseaudio as user root would require access to the
> >>> hardware.
> >>> this
> >>> is denied because its locked by the instance used by your user. So the
> >>> script
> >>> configures the root instance of pulseaudio to stream its sound to your
> >>> user
> >>> instance of pulseaudio (instead play it directly), and configure your
> >>> user
> >>> instance of pulseaudio to receive the root sound stream and play this
> >>> stream
> >>> on your speaker. this makes you hear the sound created by fenrirs TTS
> >>> process.
> >>> this is just to let you know what the scripts are doing.
> >>> you need to run this once as normal user and once as root (to bring both
> >>> configurations in place)
> >>>
> >>> # as normal user:
> >>> /usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh
> >>> # as root
> >>> sudo /usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh
> >>>
> >>> let me know if you need help. fenrir is of course not perfect yet :), but
> >>> i
> >>> do
> >>> my best to improve it. also if i don't have that time i currently wanna
> >>> have
> >>> for develop it.
> >>>
> >>> cheers chrys
> >>>
> >>> Am 31.01.20 um 16:25 schrieb Mallard:
> >>>> Hello again Chrys,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Sorry, I think I need some more help here.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Where is teh Pulseaudio Configure Script to be found?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Arch was installed for me by my son, as I said previously, and I only
> >>>> resurrected it, but I don't know what was done then.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks, sorry for this laughable question... lol
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Ciao,
> >>>>
> >>>> Ollie
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 30/01/2020 14:19, chrys@linux-a11y.org wrote:
> >>>>> Howdy Ollie,
> >>>>>> because my Arch doesn't want to speak in the consol
> >>>>> Using pulseaudio requires some additional step.
> >>>>> did you run the configure pulseaudio script?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> cheers chrys
> >>>>> Zitat von Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> hello Pranav,? Thanks" for confirming. I was looking into Fenrir,
> >>>>>> because
> >>>>>> my Arch doesn't want to speak in the console, while all is well in
> >>>>>> Mate
> >>>>>> desktop.? What I tried up to now has giuen no results... sigh.? I'll
> >>>>>> wait
> >>>>>> till Fenrir is fixed to try it out.? Ciao,? Ollie
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ?Sent from BlueMail ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 30 Jan 2020, 00:40, at 00:40, Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi Ollie,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Fenrir as far as I know works only in the console. I have been
> >>>>>>> unable
> >>>>>>> to get the latest versions working due to a problem with the pyttsx3
> >>>>>>> library. The library is a cross platform library to work with
> >>>>>>> speech.
> >>>>>>> It seems it is executing the code meant for Microsoft windows in the
> >>>>>>> Linux installs so there is a problem.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Pranav
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: fenrir-screenreader-bounce@freelists.org
> >>>>>>> <fenrir-screenreader-bounce@freelists.org> On Behalf Of Mallard
> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 2:03 AM
> >>>>>>> To: fenrir-screenreader@freelists.org
> >>>>>>> Subject: [fenrir-screenreader] Re: Testing
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> hello Pranav,? I hear you loud and clear.? I've just resurrected my
> >>>>>>> Arch and Slint installations, and was thinking of giving Fenrir a
> >>>>>>> spin.
> >>>>>>> I haven't followed this list at all, so I don't have a very clear
> >>>>>>> picture of the current state of the screen reader.? Someone told me
> >>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>> works in both console and graphic desktop, while my understanding
> >>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>> it's only for console.? Which is true?? Thanks, take care. Ollie
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sent from BlueMail <http://www.bluemail.me/r?b=15774>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 29 Jan 2020, at 18:19, Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@gmail.com
> >>>>>>> <mailto:pranav.lal@gmail.com> > wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>> Just testing if I? can send messages.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ?_____
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> MailingList: fenrir-screenreader@freelists.org
> >>>>>>> <mailto:fenrir-screenreader@freelists.org>
> >>>>>>> Website: https://linux-a11y.org
> >>>>>>> Wiki: https://wiki.linux-a11y.org/doku.php?id=fenrir
> >>>>>>> Code: https://github.com/chrys87/fenrir
> >>>>>>> IRC Live Support:
> >>>>>>> Network: irc.linux-a11y.org <http://irc.linux-a11y.org>
> >>>>>>> Room: #a11y
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --------------------------------------------
> >>>>> MailingList: fenrir-screenreader@freelists.org
> >>>>> Website: https://linux-a11y.org
> >>>>> Wiki: https://wiki.linux-a11y.org/doku.php?id=fenrir
> >>>>> Code: https://github.com/chrys87/fenrir
> >>>>> IRC Live Support:
> >>>>> Network: irc.linux-a11y.org
> >>>>> Room: #a11y
> >>>>>
> >>> --------------------------------------------
> >>> MailingList: fenrir-screenreader@freelists.org
> >>> Website: https://linux-a11y.org
> >>> Wiki: https://wiki.linux-a11y.org/doku.php?id=fenrir
> >>> Code: https://github.com/chrys87/fenrir
> >>> IRC Live Support:
> >>> Network: irc.linux-a11y.org
> >>> Room: #a11y
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> > --------------------------------------------
> > MailingList: fenrir-screenreader@freelists.org
> > Website: https://linux-a11y.org
> > Wiki: https://wiki.linux-a11y.org/doku.php?id=fenrir
> > Code: https://github.com/chrys87/fenrir
> > IRC Live Support:
> > Network: irc.linux-a11y.org
> > Room: #a11y
> >
> >
>
>
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