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Re: Future of Accessibility in Debian



A company who sells computers with Debian, from a universality access point of view. It means: not needed to use commandlinie (but possible) MATE desktop, Orca with as nice as possible voice according to the language, Iris OCR to read paper documents, Compiz for visual settings if the person needs negative or color filter or magnification or whatever, etc.

All they provide is with 12 support hours (among 5 hours training, 3 pure support hours and initial customizations, help to import data, mail accounts, help to set the initial voice parameters, braille, etc).

Any dev are free, as much as possible in upstream projects (Mate, Mozilla, Compiz, GTK/Qt/Muter, etc).

Another plan exists with: 89E/month subscription, 399 security deposit, 199 setup, and you have a computer, support, training, unlimited and without minimum duration of subscription. Always rely on Debian. Free updates.

The purpose: making everybody access to the computer, and making disable people the most standalone possible via a good computer usage without technical skills (but opened for those who have them).

Regards





Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Le 08/11/2019 à 17:14, mattias a écrit :
what is hypra?

On 2019-11-08 17:10, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
Hi Devin,

Sorry for advertisment in advance, but:

> I would definitely recommend the Mac. You’ll still be able to run free software, in an environment like > Unix. Optionally, if you use the command line, check out https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr <https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr>

Hypra machines do this too. And will always do.

> It isn’t as powerful as Fenrir or Speak, but it gets the job done well. Also, the graphical utilities that come with the Mac, Safari, Mail, text-edit, are great also. There is spell checking, autocorrect, text replacement, and AppleScripting and Automation, all configurable, throughout the system, not just in > your word processor, all accessible with VoiceOver.

Hypra has Firefox, Thunderbird, pluma, Libreoffice, accessible all right. And all the Debian catalog.





> Of course, there are current bugs. In Safari, you hear “insertion point at (nil)” at the end of every paragraph unless you use the arrow keys, and not VoiceOver navigation, to read. These bugs are usually fixed within the year of a version release, and the releases are often much better than the public beta versions.

> I seriously hope that Linux stays accessible, because I’d hate to see free software let us down so majorly. But, volunteers are not held to a standard of accessibility, so I will not be shocked if all we have left in Linux is the command line.

What I mean here is not doiing free advertisment, but making you aware of this: buy Mac, pay about 1000 euros or much more, learn yourself, hope there are not regressions, use only Apple compatible accesories, try reporting but Apple does not listen always (said one of their community leader). Buy Hypra about 2000 euros, get an out-of-the-box accessible Debian, a warranty it will stay accessible through updates, free updates, persons you can talk to, in order to request for things and getting support and training, fund the free software dev to avoid such dark future as described on the thread. You can connect most accessories (even Apple ones despite many complexities). In other words, if you use free software, why changing it for Mac whereas you can pay nearly the same for a full Linux accessible, warranty and with human support? So far there were few warranties, hence people going to typical computers, now there is, so free software supporters should pay to fund this effort instead of paying for Apple, whose effort is not the same after Jobs' death.

Regards




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