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Re: MATE chosen by default instead of gnome for blind people [Was: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 6 release]

On 5/22/2016 3:13 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Could blind people here comment on this: why you don't use gnome and
prefer MATE instead? (or the converse of course, the idea is not to
blame gnome, we just want to select by default what is best for users,
according to their situation. Ideally we'd just say "pick whatever,
they're all good").

I haven't tried Gnome 3 since shortly after it was released. I understand some of the issues have been addressed. I found it very confusing. With MATE and Windows, pressing Tab after I'm logged in should eventually get me to a desktop, menu or something useful but it doesn't. I think I was in Gnome Shell which had no speech. If I press the Super key, I think I land in a search area, but I could be thinking of Unity. I still have no obvious way of selecting what app to run. Pressing other random keys didn't seem to help, so I gave up. With Gnome 2, I had no problems at least navigating the desktop. I could press Tab and the arrows which would at least get me to the file explorer. Alt-F1 lands me in a menu which I can arrow through. I'm not saying that Gnome 3 must have a menu interface, but it would be helpful to have all installed apps in a list which can be navigated with the arrows and doesn't require guesswork to find. Since we're using Super-S to turn on the screen reader, maybe make it present a simplified interface with such a list available by pressing Tab after Orca comes up.

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