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Re: MATE chosen by default instead of gnome for blind people [Was: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 6 release]

gnome uses too much memory especially on older hardware to the point of keyboard latency; newer systems with more memory don't have this problem and mate has a smaller memory footprint. I have sonar-mate running fine but run with difficulty using gnome on a 1GB ram machine. Also, all desktop instances would be more useable if those were tohave available a package like xdummy for installation when no screen is found connected to a computer. This way blind people could use linux without a display just as they can with windows 7 and above. Had that been the case, I could have migrated to a larger memory model machine and run it until I could get a dvi cable and connect the screen.

On Sun, 22 May 2016, Samuel Thibault wrote:

Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 06:13:55
From: Samuel Thibault <sthibault@debian.org>
To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
Cc: pkg-gnome-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org
Subject: MATE chosen by default instead of gnome for blind people [Was: Debian
     Installer Stretch Alpha 6 release]
Resent-Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 10:14:26 +0000 (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org


Cyril Brulebois, on Sat 21 May 2016 23:13:17 +0200, wrote:
 * brltty:
    - Install MATE desktop by default when brltty is used in d-i.
 * espeakup:
    - Install MATE desktop by default when espeakup is used in d-i.

This change has triggered discussion on the debian-boot IRC channel. To
summarize, gnome people are surprised that MATE would be preferred by
blind people and wonder what they need to improve in gnome. I answered
that it was more a problem of general trend towards visual ways of
using the desktop, which can't be made really usable, but that's only a
sketchy answer, they need more precise examples.

Could blind people here comment on this: why you don't use gnome and
prefer MATE instead? (or the converse of course, the idea is not to
blame gnome, we just want to select by default what is best for users,
according to their situation. Ideally we'd just say "pick whatever,
they're all good").



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