Re: Bug#705599: finish-install: 07speakup needs to be updated for Wheezy and GNOME 3
Raphael Hertzog, le Fri 19 Apr 2013 08:48:58 +0200, a écrit :
> Now you're calling dbus-launch and I expect that a side-effect of this
> is to create /var/lib/dbus/machine-id.
Ok.
> (it might not be a big deal, but it's the kind of side effect that I prefer to avoid)
Sure.
> > > 3/ you change directly the user configuration instead of adjusting
> > > the defaults (this one is debatable since supplementary users might
> > > not want a11y enabled by default but this is a minor inconvenience)
> >
> > Yes, thus Cc-ing debian-accessibility. I'm not sure what we really
> > want. Most often, users (other than the person who installed the system
> > with braille or speech) will not want accessibility being enabled.
>
> Yeah, but how common is the multiple users per machine scenario ?
Well, the home computer, typically.
> And whatever happens, all users will have gdm with a11y enabled.
Yes, that is not an issue. Logging into gdm is not very talkative
anyway.
> > On the other hand, just changing the default could be less surprising
> > than having a configured user.
> >
> > But on the other hand again, having "a file in
> > /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas outside of dpkg's knowledge" is not a good
> > thing either, and people will wonder how this script ended up there, and
> > not coming from a package.
>
> That's why I have put a clear comment on the top of the file that says
> what created this file. I agree it's not perfect but the same goes for having
> one user pre-configured and not the others...
Right.
> The other positive point of changing the default is that you don't have
> to special case and hardcode the knowledge of the gdm user.
Indeed.
> > > 4/ if the system is reconfigured so that gsettings uses something else
> > > than dconf as backend,
> >
> > Urgl, so gsettings might be storing parameters another way, depending on
> > the system preference? That, however is really a problem indeed.
>
> Yes. That said I don't know anyone who has done it in production. The only
> supported databases so far are dconf and gconf.
Ok.
> > Would it be possible to store a schema file somewhere in the user home?
>
> Not that I know.
Too bad.
> > Now, an issue is that while finish-install can be updated with a new
> > patch without rebuilding debian-installer, brltty can not, and rc2,
> > supposed to be used for 7.0.0, is already on its way. Ideally we'd use
> > the same strategy for both the speakup and the brltty installations...
>
> Yes, I agree. That said it doesn't break anything to mix up the strategies.
> Thus we can always sync for 7.0.1.
Right.
So I'd say we can go with your version, and we'll make brltty switch to
that with 7.0.1.
Samuel
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