Both vlc and mplayer no longer work on my system. I had both working before the last updates and without those, I can't listen to podcasts any longer. The vlc I used was vlc-nox since I mostly run a console operation over here. I have an .mplayer/config file of: js=null lirc=null vo=null ao=alsa --------------------------------------------------------------------------- jude <jdashiel@shellworld.net> Adobe fiend for failing to Flash