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Re: Orca support and XFCE



"Mgr. Janusz Chmiel" <chmiel@phil.muni.cz> writes:

>    I have tried to contact many various programmers to enable support
> of Orca with XFCE desktop environment. I Am very sad, that i have no
> luck, so nobody wanted to discuss about it with me.

I can see how this is saddening.

> And i Am convinced, that it is not require complex modiffications of
> at-spi components, Orca source code or even XFCE source code.

I am not very familiar with XFCE but what I know from GNOME,
I am guessing for accessibility of the XFCE specific
desktop gadgets like panels or whatever there is there are
usually some modifications necessary.  After all, these
programs need to tell at-spi about what they are presenting.

> The facts related to Orca cooperation and XFCE are as follows:
>
> 1. Orca is only able to work, if user completes all Orca setup
[...]
> 2. After performing logout, user can use ALT+F2 and type Orca in XFCE
> run application dialog window.
> 3. The welcome to Orca message is appear
> 4. User can not even access Orca preferences dialog window with
> Orca. The dialog window is being correctly displaied on The screen
> when activating it, but Orca can not speak elements in this dialog
> window.

Hmm, might be that at-spi (as you guessed below) might not
be running.  The orca preferences dialog, being written with GTK2,
should be accessible, regardless of the window manager you are using.

> 5. Orca is only able to work, if User run firefox (Iceweasel) WEB
> browser. In this browser, Orca is able to speak even all WEB page
> elements, all menu items, even Orca quick navigation keys are
> awailable. But if other application is executed from Firefox, for
> example, while opening Gnome-mplayer after selecting some direct link
> to work with multimedia content, live Internet streams, Orca is not
> able to access The information from this window.

What is your motivation to use XFCE with Orca, instead of GNOME?

> So Orca is able to only cooperate with Iceweasel while using Xfce
> desktop environment.
>
>    I think, that it would be possible to find out, how is it possible
> and to make some special Bash scripts to start at-spi infrastructure
> or to modifi some crucial XFCE file to initiate at-spi support.

Yes, its definitely possible.  What you need to get this
started is someone knowledgeable enough with XFCE internals
to start working on accessibility for it.

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