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Re: Atari Falcon network



Since i doubt you upgrade your Falcon to ct60 just for running Debian,
hell yes, get the 14 MB if you can grab it...

Atari software can, and will, take use of it.

have fun,
Stefan


Am 13.11.19 um 01:15 schrieb Johny Five:
In general is 14MB Ram usefull for something when I have ct60e?

Am about to buy that Ram Expansion...

Dne st 13. 11. 2019 0:21 uživatel Eero Tamminen <oak@helsinkinet.fi <mailto:oak@helsinkinet.fi>> napsal:

    Hi,

    On 11/13/19 12:26 AM, Michael Schmitz wrote:
     > On 13/11/19 9:24 AM, Johny Five wrote:
     >> Is it possible to run linux on stock Falcon?
     > No.

    Linux v5.3 and minimal user-space (e.g. busybox shell as init)
    can be run on Falcon with just 8MB of ST-RAM.  I've tested
    that in Hatari emulator Falcon emulation mode:
    https://git.tuxfamily.org/hatari/hatari.git/plain/doc/m68k-linux-for-hatari.txt


     >> Does the 14MB RAM update help?
     > Only for very old versions of Debian (pre-systemd).

    I think that booting latest Debian to command line prompt, needs
    nowadays something like 64MB of TT-RAM, mainly for initfs
    (uncompressed it's quite large, and I think the compressed data
    is also in RAM until uncompression finishes), but there are also
    quite a few processes, tmpfs file systems, and full kernel takes
    more memory too.


             - Eero

    PS. For testing Debian boot up needs, Aranym is better than Hatari.
    Although Aranym emulates 040 instead of 030, it's close enough
    to Falcon for most thing, much faster as it doesn't try to do
    cycle-accurate emulation, and it doesn't have problems with
    Debian.

     >> When Falcon is equipped with CT60e + 512MB is there use of that
    14MB
     >> additional RAM?
     >
     > Yes - if loading the kernel to that section of RAM. You probably
    don't
     > want to do that.
     >
     > Some of the ST-RAM is still used when loading the kernel to the
    512 MB
     > FastRAM section (for drivers that require ST-RAM either as DMA
    buffer or
     > video RAM). The rest is unused - recent patches to change the m68k
     > memory model ought to make it easier to use the ST-RAM as system
    RAM,
     > but there's still some bits missing.
     >
     > Cheers,
     >
     >      Michael Schmitz
     >
     >>
     >> Dne út 5. 11. 2019 15:06 uživatel Stefan Niestegge
    <beetle@abbuc.de <mailto:beetle@abbuc.de>
     >> <mailto:beetle@abbuc.de <mailto:beetle@abbuc.de>>> napsal:
     >>
     >>     Hello,
     >>
     >>     i can confirm that both, EtherNec (aka NetUSBee) and
    EtherNat work
     >>     for
     >>     Debian. NetBSD only supports EtherNec. SVEthLanA only works in
     >>     TOS/MiNT.
     >>
     >>     kind regards,
     >>     Stefan
     >>
     >>     Am 05.11.19 um 01:16 schrieb Michael Schmitz:
     >>     > Johny,
     >>     >
     >>     > both should be supported. NetUSBee through the 'ne' driver.
     >>     EtherNAT
     >>     > through the smc91x driver.
     >>     >
     >>     > Cheers,
     >>     >
     >>     >      Michael
     >>     >
     >>     >
     >>     > On 5/11/19 11:32 AM, Johny Five wrote:
     >>     >> Hi,
     >>     >>
     >>     >> what is recommended solution for network on Falcon?
     >>     >>
     >>     >> I have Falcon + CT 63 in desktop.
     >>     >>
     >>     >> Is Netusbee by Lotharek supported?
     >>     >>
     >>     >> EtherNAT is better probably but am afraid its very hard
    to get
     >> one.
     >>     >>
     >>     >> Thanks for info
     >>     >
     >>
     >



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