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Re: Bootstrapping sid (was m68k Debian lenny?)



Le lundi 15 mars 2010 à 05:22 +0000, John Klos a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> > I guess I should add that I've never actually tested gcc-4.5. The release
> > notes say that the feature is there.
> 
> Ok... So one of the first steps is seeing how difficult it is to get gcc 
> 4.5 up and running.
> 
> >> glibc or eglibc?
> >
> > Only glibc at present.
> >
> > But it is a bit academic, since my cross-compiler used the packages
> > sources from sid. So we have patches.
> 
> So the patches are already in sid? I wish I understood how to get the 
> sources.
> 
> I'm still at the bootstrap phase. It seems that there are files here, 
> there and everywhere. I can download the Penguin bootloader from here:


Just a reminder: you can find a mac sarge bootable ISO at
http://vivierlaurent.free.fr/Debian_3.1_r0a_m68k_Bin-1_emile.iso

BTW, emile from git repository is able to create bootable CD without
Apple copyrighted material. See man emile-mkisofs:

git clone git://gitorious.org/emile/mainline.git emile

> 
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-mac68k/files/
> 
> I can't find a single filesystem image for m68k here:
> 
> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/M68k
> 
> I can't find any here:
> 
> http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian/
> 
> Nothing here:
> 
> http://people.debian.org/~smarenka/d-i/m68k/images/daily/
> 
> This is completely out of date:
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-mac68k/files/
> 
> This is, for all practical purposes, empty:
> 
> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/etch-m68k/
> 
> There's nothing, old or otherwise, for m68k here:
> 
> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/
> 
> The web pages are certainly less than helpful. Here, for instance:
> 
> http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/
> 
> there is mention of Motorola 680x0, but there are no download links. So 
> one has to look around to find this:
> 
> http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/
> 
> These pages only talk about CD images, and nowhere in the documentation is 
> it mentioned whether the ramdisk parameter in the Penguin bootloader will 
> be happy with an .iso file.
> 
> Looking at all of the directories in here:
> 
> http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-m68k/current/images/
> 
> doesn't help. Every image is 1.2 to 1.5 megabytes. It's hardly clear what 
> each of the different initrd22.gz files is for, and why there's a 
> different one for cdrom, floppy, hd-media, et cetera.
> 
> I guess what I'm getting at is that I find it exceedingly difficult to 
> even figure out how to get started! What would be helpful to me and what 
> might encourage others to try would be some simple instructions and 
> perhaps a small collection of working links.
> 
> For instance, here's how you install NetBSD:
> 
> Set up a hard drive with a small bootable Mac partiton (with System 
> Folder), an A/UX Root&Usr partition, and an A/UX swap partition (or have a 
> separate hard drive for NetBSD).
> 
> Download this:
> ftp://ftp.NetBSD.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-5.0.2/mac68k/installation/misc/BSD_Mac68k_Booter.bin
> and this:
> ftp://ftp.NetBSD.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-5.0.2/mac68k/installation/instkernel/netbsd-INSTALL.gz
> to the Mac OS volume.
> 
> Launch the BSD-Mac68k Booter, select the netbsd-INSTALL.gz file, and boot. 
> Use the boot menu to install the OS.
> 
> To do a manual install, hit control-C at the installer, do a newfs to the 
> A/UX partition, mount it, configure the network, ftp anonymously to 
> ftp.NetBSD.org and download 
> /pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-5.0.2/mac68k/binary/sets/*.tgz, untargzip them, run 
> MAKEDEV all in the dev directory, set up etc/fstab and etc/rc.conf, 
> reboot, and update the settings in the BSD-Mac68k Booter to boot the 
> NetBSD kernel (/netbsd) from the A/UX partition.
> 
> 
> Can someone help me understand how the pieces of Debian go together enough 
> to get a working system, or perhaps offer some simple instructions for a 
> dummy like above? I feel like I'm just randomly trying to put pieces 
> together from too many different places. I can't get a cohesive picture 
> (yet).
> 
> Thanks,
> John Klos
> 
> 



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