I watc the mailing list and the newsgroup, after seeing counts of woes and machine specific probelms, I have to ask; what machine has the least amount of installation, networking, and X problems. It would be nice if their was a machine with built in networking, and upgradeable or with 2megs of video memory that debian would install on, netwok flawlessly, and have X work wihtout massive work. Cheers, Jeramy B Smith BS, AAS, MCSE, MCP+I www.corplinux.com