Re: [Debconf-video] video meeting for dc15, video sprint
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 04:29:15PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Montag, 16. März 2015, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > Note to self: if you're going to suggest a meeting, better f*cking
> > actually be there, yourself. Grmbl.
>
> #meetbot pingall is also really useful.
Quite, yes, but, ah well.
> > Having said that, though, I do believe the urgency is gone now that
> > -team has come up with a budget; we "just" need to come up with a way to
> > do our stuff within that budget (which, I think, is perfectly possible).
> > So rather than wasting everyone's time yet again, I suggest we do things
> > via mailinglist instead.
> >
> > What needs to happen:
> > - We need to get four cameras, four tripods, six laptops, and a whole
> > bunch of audio gear and cables from Paris to Heidelberg and back
> > again. Richard seems to think we can do that at €500, which I think is
> > too low; I think a guesstimate of 2k is more realistic, which Richard
> > thinks is ridiculously high.
>
> I dont think we should aim to pay money for that, rather find nice french
> people to drive it for us.
Yeah, I agree with that, but we should also prepare a backup plan just
in case nobody from Paris (or thereabouts) is driving to Heidelberg.
I haven't had time to look at detailed prices yet. I plan to drive to a
nearby courier service and get a reasonable guesstimate.
> > I can't come up with a better answer to the question at hand from
> > where I am (typing this in a restaurant on my way home), but I'll take
> > this as an action point for later this week: figure out what a
> > reasonable guesstimate would be. If someone has an answer already, be
> > my guest ;-)
>
> look at videoteam expenses from last years? switzerland should be pretty
> comparative.
Good idea, thanks.
> > - We need to buy some consumables:
> > - batteries for the wireless mics.
> > - duct tape (or is this done by network team?)
> > - media to put the recordings on (disks)? Not sure if we need this.
> > How is this usually done?
> > - Anything else?
> > - We need to organize a sprint. Ideally, people from non-debconf video
> > teams would be present at this sprint, too. We should talk to those
> > people, see if they're interested in joining, see how much time
> > they're willing to spend, and come up with a date. It should be:
> > - Long enough before debconf that we can use whatever we figure out at
> > this sprint at debconf itself
> > - long enough in the future that it's still possible to organize it
> > properly.
>
> end of may?
Works for me.
> > I think one month before debconf is the absolute minimum to pass on
> > the first restriction, and that 6 weeks to two months is probably what
> > it would take for the second one; that leaves (late) may, all of june,
> > and early july for the sprint.
> > Open questions:
> > - how long should such a sprint be? We could make it a weekend one, so
> > that people don't need to take vacation, which is probably a good
> > idea. Alternatively, we could make it a week sprint, which would
> > give us more time, but would require people to take time off from
> > work. Maybe do something like wednesday through sunday, and people
> > who can only join for the weekend arrive friday night?
>
> i'd prefer thursday to sunday.
Or that.
> > - Where are we going to do this? I don't personally have any space
> > that I could use for this kind of stuff. Anyone have an idea?
>
> linuxhotel.de in essen would be an option i'm sure, if they still have free
> weekends. else maybe some place in heidelberg? or a hackspace in hamburg or
> berlin? or brussels?
Yes, that's probably a good idea. I'll contact them and see if that's
possible, and also see if they're still available late may.
> > - We need a plan for recording stuff at conference itself. I think for
> > this year, going with a dvswitch-compiled-on-wheezy is an acceptable
> > plan that will work (the issues with dvswitch are that the API changed
> > in recent libav versions, which happened after the release of wheezy;
> > when compiled against the libav libraries from wheezy, even if the
> > result runs on jessie, everything works fine). However, I would feel
> > more comfortable with switching to some other option. At the same
> > time, I don't feel comfortable with such a switch until after the
> > sprint.
>
> agreed. also i still think dvswicth on wheezy is totally fine today.
>
> > - We need a plan for reviewing. In past debconfs (that I was present
> > at), we used a penta extension, which seemed to work fine. However,
> > since debconf has moved away from penta now, that is no longer an
> > option. I wasn't at debconf 2014, so I can't evaluate how well last
> > year's solution (veyepar) worked; but I can note that for FOSDEM 2014,
> > it wasn't a complete success. Then again, FOSDEM and DebConf are two
> > completely different beasts; what is a bad idea for one conference
> > isn't necessarily so for the other.
> > Can someone who actually was at DebConf14 comment on how well veyepar
> > worked for DebConf?
>
> i'll pass here. (just note that all the video extension needs is a penta
> install (which we still have) with updated datam, wchih we could extract and
> feed into penta...
True enough, I suppose.
> the ccc also has a video reviewing system.
Do you have any experience with it?
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