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Re: [Debconf-video] video annotations for DebConf13



Hi Silvia,

Thanks for the link! This is the sort of usage we're envisioning for our
tools.

TextTrack/WebVTT seems promising, but browser support seems a little lacking,
which makes me wonder how much it can do for us right now. Specifically,
Firefox doesn't seem to support it, and our current plans are to support
Chrom{e,ium} and Firefox.[0]

  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=629350
  https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/WebVTT
  https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/Element/track

That said, WebVTT seems useful as a data model and maybe even as an internal
representation for our work. Indeed, some of our previous projects have used
the similar SRT format for subtitles and annotations.

So I think we'll be rendering subtitles ourselves for the time being and
switching to <track> when it's a little better supported.

Daf

P.S. Will you be at Debconf? I'd love to get your feedback on how this project
turns out in person.

 [0] Our reasoning is that they're the most popular free software browsers and
     often lead in supporting useful new technology, and that supporting both
     encourages us to only use new technology that is likely to see adoption
     in the future (compare the current situation with the
     incompatible/non-standard web audio APIs).

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 06:58:10PM +1000, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
> Can I suggest you use the TextTrack API to synchronize the video with the text?
> You can do something clever like
> http://www.viralblog.com/social-tv/swedish-radio-launches-cool-second-screen-campaign/
>  with the display of things.
> 
> Cheers,
> Silvia.
> 
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:00 PM,
> <debconf-video-request@lists.debconf.org> wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 13:46:09 -0400
> > From: Dafydd Harries <daf@debian.org>
> > To: debconf-video@lists.debconf.org
> > Cc: rmo@numm.org
> > Subject: [Debconf-video] video annotations for DebConf13
> > Message-ID: <20130408174609.GG31426@err>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Hi DebConf video team,
> >
> > We are working on a live annotation interface for streaming video,
> > and want to bring it to bear on hacker conference videos.
> > The idea is that it lets viewers streaming the conference share notes as
> > talks are happening (through web or IRC), integrates with a similar "video on demand"
> > interface including the same annotations and allowing more refined
> > tagging, and even allows some form of basic editing for resynthesizing out of
> > all of the videos.
> >
> > We'll be testing a system this summer at Ohm, the Dutch hacker camp,
> > and were thinking we could bring it to DebConf too.
> >
> > Our system will not require extensive hardware.
> > A single desktop will take encoded streams as input over the local network
> > and expose chunked streamdumps with a one- or two-minute "tape" delay
> > through a web interface. Ideally we can make the service simultaneously
> > available both locally and on teh intarwebz!!11![1]
> >
> > All of our tools and development[2] are (A)GPL, and ideally would be packaged
> > for Debian in advance of DebConf.
> >
> > Is there any interest?
> >
> > daf & rmo
> >
> >   [1] Similar to https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/File:Network-debconf12.png
> >   [2] http://readmes.numm.org/interlace3/

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