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Re: Expense approved with some additional remarks (Was: DebConf 25 budget approval request)



Hello Andreas,

El 10/03/25 a las 10:30, Andreas Tille escribió:
> Hi Santiago,
> 
> at first let me thank you for all your effort to organise DebConf.  Its
> really appreciated since I think DebConf is extremely important for
> Debian.  Since DebConf budget is always a major item I'd like to add
> some remarks (which are basically inspired by treasurer which I
> consulted in advance).
> 
> 
>  * A maximum deficit to Debian of 10k EUR is acceptable.

ACK.

>  * To make sure we can invite people from all over the world
>    and meet our criteria for newcomers and diversity make sure
>    to reserve 85k EUR to be handled by the bursaries team.
>    If you can get more funding from sponsors it would be great
>    to add more money to this budget item.

ACK. And yes, that is our intention.

>  * Within the other budget positions the team is flexible to re-assign
>    expenses, such re-assignment shall be committed to the public ledger
>    for documentation purposes.

Understood. Thanks.

> 
> I'm looking forward to a great DebConf

Same here!

>    Andreas.

So, do you have any other question or comment before giving an official
approval? Or should we consider this version of the budget has been
approved?

> Am Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 03:12:57PM -0500 schrieb Santiago Ruano Rincón:
> > Dear Andreas,
> > 
> > For DebConf 25, to be held in Brest, France, the local team has prepared
> > the budget that you can find here below, and in the debconf-team's dc25 repo:
> > 
> >     https://salsa.debian.org/debconf-team/public/data/dc25/-/blob/main/budget/budget.ledger
> > 
> > Except for a few changes that reduced the total expenses, this budget
> > was presented in today's (2025-03-04) debconf orga meeting, and we
> > agreed in to ask for its approval. You can find the minutes of the
> > meeting at:
> > 
> >     https://meetbot.debian.net/debconf-team/2025/debconf-team.2025-03-04-17.00.html
> > 
> > We would like to note that this is a conservative budget, and we are
> > expecting more income from sponsors to come. Once we have more sponsors,
> > we could increase the amounts for the different bursaries, especially
> > food+accommodation.
> > 
> > Could you please review the budget, and if you agree, approve it?
> > 
> > If you have any questions, please, don't hesitate to let them know.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > For the DC 25 local team,
> > 
> >   -- Santiago
> > 
> > 
> > include commodities.inc
> > include accounts.inc
> > 
> > ; Budget for DC25
> > 2025-03-04 * Estimate
> >     ;
> >     ;
> >     ; Assets
> >     ;
> >     assets:debian-france
> >     ;
> >     ;
> >     ; Expected expenses
> >     ;
> >     expenses:accommodation:bed-set                                 2,600 EUR
> >     ; camping
> >     ;  16€ double-size bed
> >     ;  13€ single-size bed
> >     ;   4€ towel
> >     ; to do
> >     ; Renting
> >     expenses:accommodation:dormitory:rooms                        32,200 EUR
> >     ; Dorm room for DebCamp + Arriving day (7 nights x avg. 100 beds)
> >     ; Dorm room for DebConf + Departing day (6 nights x avg. 100 beds)
> >     expenses:accommodation:camping                                37,740 EUR
> >     ; mobile homes, priority for families and groups
> >     expenses:child-care                                            6,000 EUR
> >     ; to do
> >     ; Looking for institutional support to cover child-care
> >     ; Babysitters
> >     expenses:equipment:av                                          6,000 EUR
> >     ; to do: actual quote
> >     ; Renting and buying the screens, audio mixers, mics and projectors
> >     expenses:equipment:network                                       200 EUR
> >     ; Renting and buying the switches and cables
> >     expenses:fees:bank                                             1,200 EUR
> >     expenses:fees:SPI                                              1,600 USD
> >     ; Bank and SPI fees
> >     expenses:fees:import-tax                                           0 EUR
> >     ; Import duty on video equipment, sponsors' swag and other things
> >     expenses:food:catering                                        88,000 EUR
> >     ; Estimated total attendees: 400
> >     ; Breakfast Rate DebCamp	50.00% of 253 accommodated attendees
> >     ; Breakfast Rate DebConf	95.00% of 253 accommodated attendees
> >     ; Lunch Rate DebCamp	40.00%
> >     ; Lunch Rate DebConf	85.00%
> >     ; Dinner Rate DebCamp	40.00%
> >     ; Dinner Rate DebConf	75.00%
> >     expenses:incidental                                            3,000 EUR
> >     expenses:insurance                                                78 EUR
> >     ; to do
> >     expenses:local-stuff-frontdesk                                 2,000 EUR
> >     ; frontdesk stuff
> >     expenses:local-team                                            2,000 EUR
> >     ; Locally fetching, renting and miscellaneous expenses
> >     expenses:printing                                              2,500 EUR
> >     ; to do: a quote is needed
> >     ; Banners, signs, flyers and printings
> >     expenses:site-visit                                            2,285 USD
> >     expenses:social:cheese-and-wine                                  800 EUR
> >     expenses:social:conference-dinner                             17,500 EUR
> >     ; to do: we would like a conference dinner that costs half of this
> >     ; estimation, but we need confirmation from the place.
> >     ; Conference dinner and its travel (350 people)
> >     expenses:social:day-trip                                      12,000 EUR
> >     ; Day trip (200 people)
> >     expenses:swag                                                  1,000 EUR
> >     ; Swag (300 people) - limiting it to bags + sponsors-provided stuff
> >     expenses:t-shirts                                              7,000 EUR
> >     ; T-shirts (with buffers: 400 attendees, X staffs, Y video team, Z volunteers)
> >     expenses:travel:bursary:diversity                             10,000 EUR
> >     ; to do: to be discussed with the bursaries team
> >     expenses:travel:bursary:general                               60,000 EUR
> >     ; to do: to be discussed with the bursaries team
> >     expenses:travel:invited-speakers                               2,000 EUR
> >     ; to do: to be discussed with the content team
> >     expenses:travel:team:dc25                                      2,000 EUR
> >     expenses:travel:team:dc26                                      4,000 EUR
> >     ; to do
> >     expenses:travel:team:debconf-ctte                              3,000 EUR
> >     expenses:travel:team:registration                              1,000 EUR
> >     expenses:travel:team:video                                     3,000 EUR
> >     expenses:venue:covid                                             500 EUR
> >     expenses:venue:rooms                                               0 EUR
> >     ; To be confirmed
> >     expenses:venue:security-guards                              6,302.77 EUR
> >     expenses:visa                                                      0 EUR
> >     ;
> >     ;
> >     ; Expected income
> >     ;
> >     income:accommodation                                         -70,400 EUR
> >     ; We are expecting 153 self-paid attendees out of 253 accommodated
> >     ; Accommodation price: 50€/night
> >     income:bar                                                         0 EUR
> >     ; We may sell the bar ticket
> >     income:meal                                                  -73,000 EUR
> >     ; 100 food bursaries, 300 self-paid
> >     income:daytrip                                               -12,000 EUR
> >     ; We may sell the day trip ticket
> >     income:conference-dinner                                      -4,375 EUR
> >     ; We expect that 25% of the people pay for the conference dinner
> >     income:registration                       (64 * -200 EUR + 28 * -500 EUR)
> >     income:sponsors:platinum                                (3 * -20,000 EUR)
> >     income:sponsors:gold                                    (2 * -10,000 EUR)
> >     income:sponsors:silver                                   (8 * -5,000 EUR)
> >     income:sponsors:bronze                                   (3 * -2,000 EUR)
> >     income:sponsors:supporter                                (2 * -1,000 EUR)
> >     income:sponsors:donations                                          0 EUR
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> https://fam-tille.de


Danke,

 -- Santiago

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