Hey Holger, thanks for the input, and taking the time to chat a bit about this just now, during which we devised a possible improvement. The point I think you're making is very acute. I think what you're saying is that we can't/shouldn't ban all "offensive behaviour" because we don't define what constitutes offensive behaviour. And next, you provide a list of some of the things that offend you, while making the point (I think) that this list surely doesn't apply to everyone else. Between those two arises the paradox: we can't ban something that we can't define for everyone. However, and of course this is my opinion only (though I'd be surprised if we all disagreed much on this): we *do* want to make sure that noone gets offended or made uncomfortable by others in the periphery of one of our events. There is always an element of "please assume best intentions" (as put forth by the text), but we need to steer clear of putting the onus on the receipient of a message: if someone has been offended or made uncomfortable, then not much will be helped by saying "oh hey, I didn't mean to hurt you, you should have used your better judgement". Nor will things improve if we expect people to "just deal with it" (i.e. receiver-side). Following our discussion, I've just made the following change: "Speak up if you notice [-offensive-] behaviour [+that leaves others uncomfortable or offended+], or inform the organisers." i.e. the focus is now on whether an action makes others uncomfortable, and we don't "ban" it per se, but we ask our community to self-regulate. You've indicated in privmsg that this constitutes an improvement in your eyes. What do others think? https://storm.debian.net/grain/uPSk9gcndDPsYMRwBh5fKe -- .''`. martin f. krafft <madduck@debconf.org> @martinkrafft : :' : DebConf orga team `. `'` `- DebConf17 Montreal, CA: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf17 DebConf18 Hsinchu, Taiwan: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf18
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