Re: [Debconf-team] Estimated numbers for t-shirts
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@gwolf.org> wrote:
> Leandro Gómez dijo [Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 08:53:51AM -0600]:
>> (...SNIP...)
>> > Ideally we might control for point 1 by comparing some example shirts
>> > from the supplier with previous years' ones, though I suspect that's
>> > now impractical in the required schedule. What some suppliers call S
>> > might be M from another supplier, etc. -- and for the women's sizes,
>>
>> We won't get women's sizes this year, unfortunately.
>> (...)
>
> So, should we mail everybody who selected a female shirt size asking
> them to select the _right_ male shirt size?
At least in the US t-shirt sizes are considered Unisex (No distinction
between male and female sizing).. About the only variation, is
"youth" sizing.
I would suggest that when allowing folks to pick what size they need,
to provide a link to a chart of dimensions, as this can vary from
vendor to vendor, and country to country.
>> > Here I just scaled up all the numbers to the totals, but it might
>> > be better to add a few extra to the smallest categories -- having only
>> > one spare t-shirt in a given size isn't really enough.
>> >
>> >
>> We also have the XS size that is ~size 14 (US standard?). A bit smaller
>> than S. Maybe that's the equivalent to female S?
>
> Right, AFAICT usually female sizes are equivalent to one step smaller
> male size - i.e. female size M means male size S. But if they can
> confirm it, much better.
>
>> > I think that there are currently around 20 sponsors (regular and
>> > permanent), though perhaps more are due to be added to the web page?
>>
>> I think only govt is missing, if they actually decide to sponsor the event.
>
> Right. Well, as we have offered (I don't remember if it has had any
> real impact) on previous years... we must keep by our deadlines. So,
> if government does not confirm in time, we can still have them as a
> platinum sponsor if they so wish, but what's already printed is
> already printed, and we cannot do anything about it. And we cannot
> risk not getting the shirts in time waiting for the sponsor.
>
> Now, what we _can_ do is to ask the printing workshop to start doing
> the front side. It should be enough work to keep them busy for some
> days. And only once they are close to finish, give them the final back
> print (sponsors' logos). The back side is much easier/quicker to
> print.
>
>> > Size Number in Penta Possible order
>> > S 14 19
>> > M 45 61
>> > L 43 79 including 20 for sponsor bags
>> > XL 29 40
>> > XXL 19 26
>> > total: 150+sponsors share of 230: 205, + 20 for sponsor bags
>> >
>> > F-S 4 7
>> > F-M 9 11
>> > F-L 3 4
>> > F-XL 2 3
>> > total: 18 share of 230: 25
>> >
>> > Did you mean 250 including sponsors, or 250 for attendees, plus the
>> > ones for sponsors?
>> >
>> >
>> 250 including sponsors.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Staff (volunteers and organisers)
>> >
>> > Size Number in Penta Possible order
>> > S 9 11
>> > M 15 18
>> > L 13 16
>> > XL 7 9
>> > XXL 5 6
>> > total: 49 share of 75: 60
>> >
>> > F-S 4 5
>> > F-M 4 5
>> > F-L 2 3
>> > F-XL 2 2
>> > total: 12 share of 75: 15
>> >
>> > Note that this doesn't give many spare shirts over the numbers in
>> > Penta. Normally we hope to get more additional people involved in
>> > volunteering who hadn't signed up for it in advance. In addition, in a
>> > hot country it would be a good idea to let some staff have more than
>> > one staff t-shirt, even if they have to pay personally for the extra
>> > one(s). So I think 75 is too few?
>> >
>> >
>> I also think it's a good idea.
>>
>> The cost of each t-shirt is $5.11 (custom made, full color printing in
>> front, one color back for the sponsor logos). We've already paid 50% of the
>> cost of 400 shirts, as required by the provider ($1000 from local sponsor
>> that paid directly to provider).
>>
>>
>> > --
>> > Moray
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