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Re: [Debconf-team] dc13 venue announcement?



Hi there!

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:23:42 +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Sonntag, 26. Februar 2012, Luca Capello wrote:
>> a) I do not see why we use Vaumarcus and not 'Le Camp'.
>
> Because we don't want to (and cannot, really) confirm and commit to a specific 
> venue more than a year in advance. What if, eg, we raise too little money for 
> this venue? Then we might switch to some cheaper option and Le Camp is sadly 
> out of it. 

I completely understand your point and I forgot to link to point c)
later on:

>> c) I still fail to see the difference between mentioning Vaumarcus and
>>    "on the banks of Lac de Neuchâtel".  If finally DebConf13 will *not*
>>    be hosted at 'Le Camp', then it will probably *not* hosted near
>>    Neuchâtel either, given that the backup solutions are cities (Geneva
>>    or Zurich).  In any case, there is still a mention of Vaumarcus at
>>    line 24.
>>
>> d) FWIW, exact dates were already decided *before* submitting the bid,
>>    also because 'Le Camp' is available for two weeks only on those
>>    dates.  So, I would remove that phrase entirely.
>
> Then we shall list these dates as "most likely".

If you prefer, as in the case Vaumarcus vs. 'Le Camp' above I am not
questioning being specific or not, but actually reflecting the *current*
bid status, which is how I read your "most likely".

Here is an updated patch:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Index: dc13-in-switzerland.wml
===================================================================
--- dc13-in-switzerland.wml	(revision 3234)
+++ dc13-in-switzerland.wml	(working copy)
@@ -16,19 +16,19 @@
 #use wml::debian::news
 
 <p>On February 20, 2012, the DebConf committee decided that DebConf13, the Debian
-developer conference of 2013, will take place on the banks of the Lac
-de Neuchâtel in Switzerland. The exact
-dates have yet to be determined. More details may be found on the
+developer conference of 2013, should take place on the banks of the Lac
+de Neuchâtel in Switzerland, most likely in the middle of August.
+More details may be found on the
 <a href="http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13";>organizers' wiki</a>.</p>
 
-<p>In a two hour meeting on Monday evening, the Vaumarcus bid
+<p>In a two hour meeting on Monday evening, the Swiss bid
 narrowly won over the bid from Riga, Latvia. Teams had been
 preparing their bids since mid-2011, seeking venues and local sponsors in
 their respective cities and countries. </p>
 
 <p>The two bids had both character and unique identities. On one hand, the
 Riga proposal was totally centered on city and university life. On the
-other hand, the Switzerland bid aimed to bring DebConf to a setting that is
+other hand, the Swiss bid aimed to bring DebConf to a setting that is
 known for its natural beauty.</p>
 
 ## some nice quotes from one or more members of the DebConf Committee
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

>> [1] please always report important points on the mailing list, for those
>>     who can not be on IRC most of the their time.
>
> While I absolutly support this, past years have shown that DebConf 
> organisation relies on IRC heavily, despite our best efforts to use the lists 
> as well. So you might want to get into the habbit of checking backlog, at 
> least for certain, possinly highlighted, terms.

I am already used to check backlogs for my nickname, I will start doing
it for other stuff as you suggested.  I am well aware of the great
effort everyone is putting into DebConf, so mine above was a wishlist
bug (which is true in Debian as well).

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca

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