Re: [Debconf-team] Budget tradeoffs vs amount of fundraising [Interlaken]
On 06/11/12 19:44, Richard Darst wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This email concerns the idea of another venue (Interlaken) which has
> lower fixed costs. As stated previously, this should be much more
> affordable for small amounts of sponsorship.
>
> Base assumptions are same as before:
> - Going in terms of DC12 fundraising, 100% = 60 kCHF. hug and I
> consider 150% safe and 200% a lot.
That 150% `safe' amount seems to co-incide with the RMLL 2012 figure of
90k CHF. It's interesting how you came up with this level independently.
> - 44/2 prof/corp.
> - Sponsored day trip / conf dinner
> - 50 CHF per person per day (food + accom)
> - 50kCHF fixed costs (20 kCH F for venue and 30 kCHF for other things)
Unlike Le Camp, we haven't had any negotiation yet and that 20k could
come down to 15k or 10k subject to which rooms we really want, etc.
> - [In the descriptions below, I use the same amount of travel
> sponsorship for each percentage level as my last email, otherwise it
> is hard to mentally compare.]
>
> 100% of DC12:
> - 120 person weeks (40/80) (vs 45 le camp), about 75 sponsored (vs
> zero sponsored at lecamp)
> - no travel sponsorship
>
> 150% of DC12:
> - 225 person-weeks (50/175) (vs 150 person-weeks lecamp).
> - (no travel sponsorship)
At this 150% level, it would suggest:
Le Camp: no DebCamp, 150 people at DebConf
50 person DebCamp, 100 people at DebConf
Interlaken: 50 person DebCamp, 175 at DebConf
However, as Le Camp insists on having a two week contract, it appears to
be a tricky situation.
If it is Le Camp, just how would the 50-70 people not getting
sponsorship be `selected'? Is there a core group of people who must be
sponsored and the rest are optional, or do we value everybody who
contributes to Debian and make it a high priority to try and sponsor as
many as possible?
> 200% of DC12:
> - 250 person-weeks (50/200) (vs 200 lecamp)
> - 20 kCHF travel sponsorship
>
> 250% of DC12:
> - 305 person-weeks (75/230) (vs 275 lecamp),
> - 30 kCHF travel sponsorship
>
> 300% of DC12:
> - Same as lecamp numbers.
That is 180k CHF - double the 90k CHF raised by RMLL 2012 in Geneva (and
they had a massive subsidy from the official sources too)
>
> ~~~~
>
> Commentary: I think this illustrates the main point about having a
> contract with lower fixed overhead costs. For smaller amounts of
> money, we can sponsor many more people to attend. By the time it
> becomes equal, le camp is maxed out. The same will be true anywhere
> we don't have such a large fixed cost (or with a shorter time).
>
> - Richard
>
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