Re: [Debconf-team] Le Camp contract, 2012-09-27
On 28/09/12 14:21, Luca Capello wrote:
> Hi there!
>
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:43:45 +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>> On 28/09/12 10:12, Luca Capello wrote:
>>> I just committed (SVN r3732 [1]) the version of the contract Le Camp
>>> sent us with the our last comments. Since the original is in French, I
>>> quickly translated it to English, please other French-speaking people
>>> check my translation!
>>>
>>> [1] <http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debconf-data?view=revision&revision=3732>
>>>
>>> Please check it again and provide question/comment, if constructive
>>> (hint: asking over and over if we can cook by ourselves is not).
>>
>>
>> Thanks for sharing that so quickly, it would be good to add in the
>> cancellation details at the bottom of the translation so people can
>> really focus on the costs and deadlines together
>
> Do you mean including the Article 2 from the "2013 Ceneral conditions
> for renting"? If we agree on those conditions I think it is useless to
> add them to the contract. BTW, I will ask Mr. Pianaro to update the
> website with the 2013 conditions, they should be available at:
>
> <http://www.lecamp.ch/tarifs.php?lang=en>
>
> 2. Cancellation and significant changes
>
> Any cancellation of a final reservation results in the payment of a
> fee equivalent to:
>
> up to 6 months in advance 20% (= 32'000.00 CHF until February 2013)
> 3 to 6 months in advance 30% (= 48'000.00 CHF until May 2013)
> 1 to 3 months in advance 50% (= 80'000.00 CHF until July 2013)
> less than one month in advance 90% (= 144'000.00 CHF)
>
> of the price for the services agreed.
>
> If the above numbers do not change for 2013, it means that we can still
> cancel without having paid the second part (to be paid on February 20,
> 2013), which seems a bit better than my previous understandings.
Thanks for that, here is my interpretation:
1. when you put pen to paper and sign the contract, DC13 has a debt of
32k (but no cash changes hands)
2. on 20 December, DC13 pays 20k CHF, so the debt is now 12k and 20k
cash is unrefundable
3. ~31 January, the debt becomes 28k
4. 20 February, another 20k cash is paid, so 40k cash is unrefundable
and 8k debt outstanding
5. ~30 April, the debt becomes 80k
6. 20 May, another 20k cash is paid, so 60k cash is unrefundable and 20k
debt outstanding
7. ~July, a further 100k must be paid, or the 60k cash is sacrificed and
DC13 has a debt of 84k CHF
>> What is the proposed way of paying the instalments, 20k CHF on 20 Dec,
>> 20 Feb and 20 May?
>
> What do you mean?
Is that money to be paid from sponsorship, or money left over from DC12,
or can the money be borrowed (e.g. from Debian itself)?
>> Will 40k CHF in sponsorship money come before 20 Feb?
>
> I do not have any answer to this question, it is (again) a big if.
How did it work in the last two DebConfs? I heard rumors that most
sponsors only pay within the last few weeks before?
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