Re: [Debconf-team] propostal web watch debconf11 with html5
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@gwolf.org> wrote:
> Joerg Jaspert dijo [Thu, May 12, 2011 at 08:58:17AM +0200]:
>> On 12478 March 1977, Adnan Hodzic wrote:
>> > +10!
>> >> http://valessiobrito.info/tmp/dc11/webwatch/
>> > I'm loving it, could just add Twitter besides Chat on IRC or before
>> > Identi.ca? I think once completed we should add this on main page
>> > below the "menu" and above from "Latest News".
>>
>> Independent of how the design looks, just let me shoot a mis-conception
>> / very bad idea:
>>
>> It is fine if people use facebook/twitter/flickr/youtube/whatever to
>> promote DebConf. If it is clear they are doing it on their own, it is
>> NOT DebConf (or Debian) doing it.
>>
>> But our website should NOT ever include a non-free service. Either there
>> is a free one, then link/use that, or DebConf provides its own. One of
>> the two. If none works, then leave a feature out of the website.
>>
>> (That also includes any kind of JS or whatever which might be
>> included. Either we legally can distribute it, or we should not have it)
>>
>> Sorry, but we are a free conference, promoting free and open - not
>> closed-source stuff.
>
> I mostly agree with Joerg - I really prefer not to link from our
> official resources to "facebook/twitter/flickr/youtube/whatever"
> nonfree services.
>
> Regarding Javascript, the tags and so on - I do not object to it. Many
> people choose not to use JS in their browser where not needed (me
> included). We can either add an exception for debconf.org, or just
> watch the ogg stream via a non-embedded player. The tabs can be set to
> be all shown in case Javascript is not enabled, as in Pentabarf when
> you request all tabs (although they will, of course, display static
> content only and would probably not be _so_ useful).
>
> Why do I advocate tabs over links? Because that way you can leave the
> speaker speaking, continue listening, and go to the other tabs and do
> AJAXy stuff without the stream breaking.
My two cents. I concur that the NO Debian or DebConf web pages should
promote or endorse any proprietary services. If folks want to share
information via unofficial channels as individuals I have no
objection, as long as it is clear that it is not official, endorsed or
promoted by Debian or the DebConf team in any way. That said if there
is a consensus to disallow even this, I would not object.
Regarding JavaScript and HTML5, I view this more of a technical
decision rather than policy. They are open standards with Free
Software implementations for both. I think they should be allowed from
an official policy point of view, but I agree that we should make sure
there are alternatives for people who don't use tools that support
them.
-Brian
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