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Re: [Debconf-team] Nov 9. DebConf11 status update



> Some media is starting to pick up this dates are definitive, for the
> discussion here I see they are not final. Adnan, what do you think
> of updating your blog post and write 'tentative' dates ?

Okay.

> In any case, when the dates are definitive for real, please write
> an email to debian-publicity@ to make an official announcement. =)

Will do, I'll let you all know once I do so :)


Adnan

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Ana Guerrero <ana@debian.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Adnan Hodzic <adnan@foolcontrol.org> wrote:
>> > today I announced official dates when DebConf11 will be held, which are:
>> >
>> > DebCamp: 25th – 31st July 2011
>> > DebConf: 1st  - 7th August 2011
>>
>
> Some media is starting to pick up this dates are definitive, for the
> discussion here I see they are not final. Adnan, what do you think
> of updating your blog post and write 'tentative' dates ?
>
> In any case, when the dates are definitive for real, please write
> an email to debian-publicity@ to make an official announcement. =)
>
>
>> And on the blog post itself, you also say, "We encourage you to arrive
>> one day earlier (24th July for DebCamp, and 31st July for DebConf),
>> final departure date will be 8th August.", so we get
>>
>> Sunday 24 July: DebCamp arrival day
>> Sunday 31 July: last day of DebCamp/DebConf arrival day
>> Monday 1 August: first day of DebConf
>> Sunday 7 August: last day of DebConf/last night of sponsored accommodation
>> Monday 8 August: DebConf departure day
>>
>> I'm slightly worried about the DebConf dates there, for two reasons.
>> I mention them now as it's not too late yet to adjust the dates we
>> advertise to attendees within the block of time (without necessarily
>> needing to change facilities bookings):
>>
>> 1. Having departure on the Monday gives a risk that we end up needing
>> to pay for an extra night of sponsored accommodation for many people
>> (if they don't shift their arrival day back to match) -- how firm are
>> your promises of government funding for the accommodation?
>>
>> 2. Many DebConf attendees want to reduce the number of days they take
>> off work, and so prefer to travel on weekends.  Even when we've
>> officially finished on a Sunday, many attendees have left on the
>> Saturday.  Having the official departure day on a Monday would seem to
>> make this worse, as on the schedule above people who leave on Saturday
>> will miss two out of six DebConf days (unless the Day Trip day is put
>> on Saturday or Sunday, but that's not ideal itself).  Bear in mind
>> that there will be some ground transport time to reach an
>> international airport, so attendees may be leaving earlier in case the
>> bus/train/whatever is late to the airport,  in addition to the time
>> for their flight(s) themselves.
>>
>> What are the views of others on the list?  Would it make more sense to
>> advertise DebConf arrival and departure weekend to weekend?
>>
>
> I share your concerns, so far, the best formula has been from Sunday to
> Saturday.  In DC9 we experimented a bit with the dates, this time
> starting in a Friday and we ended with a lot of people arriving in Saturday.
>
> Since I have still at hand the data from DC10:
>
> ====================
> Departure date:
> 2010-08-01    2
> 2010-08-02    2
> 2010-08-03    4
> 2010-08-04    2
> 2010-08-05    1
> 2010-08-06   11
> 2010-08-07   74
> 2010-08-08  167
>      None  145
>
> Last day of talks was 2010-08-07 and still a lot of people departed that
> day. "None 145" means people who did not set departure dates, since we did not
> need that for people not staying at Columbia Housing.
>
> Ana
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