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[Debconf-team] Re: Talk schedule



On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 09:09:45AM +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
> Don Armstrong wrote:
> > On Wed, 03 May 2006, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
> >   
> >> I didn't see my Ubuntu report-back talk on the schedule?
> >>     
> >
> > Alexander Schmehl told me that your talk and three others were
> > supposed to be BoFs instead of full fledged talks:
> >
> > http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20060501.163331.8cc01ce7.en.html
> >   
> Alexander, in the past the Ubuntu reportback has been fully subscribed
> and a very productive session. I'm surprised you "demoted" the
> presentation without discussing it with me. I trust this can be rectified!

Hi Mark!

Sorry for not replying right away, i am trying to move my body clock to
mexian time and i slept in.

In the end it was me and not Alexander making that decision. 

I had been in contact with Clair Davis. (you were CC:ed on the entire 
the mail exchange we had and i guess you can find the relevant mails 
easy enough.) I had both suggested to her to act as your ghostwriter 
in order to unload you, as well as some relevant data/topics that i would have 
liked to see in the paper for your presentation. Your talk being like it was last year i 
understood that you would hardly hand in an academic paper on ubuntu 
or so but i suggested to include rather some basic statistical data about growth, size etc. 
that would have been enough and i wrote that. 

once the deadline was over i first mailed and then even phoned Clair but
only got in contact with her after coming across in a hysterical way on
#ubuntu-devel, when someone with better contacts must have poked her. At
that point she told me you (and her, too?) were on vacation and would
not be reachable and that you would write your paper a week before
debconf. I understood that that would be too late for our proceedings
(which went to print some time ago) and informed her that that would be
too late to make it as a talk and that it would have to be a bof instead.
A paper was a hard requirement for it to be a called a talk.

I would have prefered you in the official talk schedule rather then in
the bof track, since i am sure your presentation will be very well
attended again and is also highly relevant to debian as a whole. Plus I
do my best to *improve* relations between debian and ubuntu. I did bend
the rules on debconf's side already and went to greater length to contact 
you and get a paper for your talk then i did with the rest. I am really 
sorry that that was not enough. Perhaps i should have tried to get you 
on the phone directly.

Then again a BoF will perhaps be a more suitable form then the talk for 
what you intent to do. I hope this can work out well in the end.

/andreas



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