On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 01:47:06AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Friday 09 June 2006 23:42, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > That requirement is, of course, entirely up to the organizers. The > > Debconf organizers have declared that all talks must be accompanied by > > papers. > > Of course, saying "give your talk as a BOF instead" is *exactly* the > > kind of behavior that leads to BOFs that are not a meeting of interested > > peers, but talks in disguise. "Demoting" talks into BOFs is just wrong. > > Some topics are best served with a talk, others with a BOF, and moving > > between them isn't a particularly good idea. (Some topics are served > > well with either, or both, of course.) > We discussed this in the "how was debconf6, what was good, what needs > improvement" add-hoc-session on the grass in Oaxtepec. And also after dc6 on > irc on #debconf-team. > We came up with following types: > 1. talk (more or less like the talks this year) > 2. presentations (no paper in advance required, no sponsorship given) > 3. bof (more or less like the bofs this year) > 4. ad-hoc bofs (not in schedule) FWIW, I had decided that next year I would not be giving any talks at DebConf because I regard the paper submission process as a farce. (I also found that material preparation for the talks substantially interfered with my ability to enjoy the conference itself, so I'm not sure I would give a presentation next year either, but that's somewhat beside the point.) In both of the talks I co-presented this year, I consider the papers a waste *of* paper containing no original information, being entirely secondary to the talks themselves. I find, looking at the proceedings for the first time as I write this mail, that other papers are definitely more worthwhile, but either there's a double-standard for paper quality based on the identity of the speaker, or the standards are so low as to make the paper requirement itself, and the coupling of paper-writing with sponsorship money, wholly insulting. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. vorlon@debian.org http://www.debian.org/
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