Bug#760213: marked as done (apt-get should not install Recommended packages by default)
Your message dated Tue, 2 Sep 2014 00:46:38 +0200
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and subject line Re: Bug#760213: apt-get should not install Recommended packages by default
has caused the Debian Bug report #760213,
regarding apt-get should not install Recommended packages by default
to be marked as done.
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--- Begin Message ---
Package: apt
Version: 1.0.6
Severity: normal
Dear Maintainer,
It is wasteful for apt-get to install recommended packages by default.
For example:
2014-09-01 14:33:26 root@dc86yxb1 ~
# apt-get install kernel-package | grep 'Need to get'
Need to get 745 MB of archives.
n
2014-09-01 14:33:38 root@dc86yxb1 ~
# apt-get install --no-install-recommends kernel-package | grep 'Need to get'
Need to get 4423 kB of archives.
n
That's 168X and 740 MB of code bloat for one (1) package!
At 1.5 Mbps, that's over 1 hour and 22 minutes to download!
Please change the default behaviour of apt-get to NOT install
recommended packages, and provide the user with optional means to
install recommended packages.
Thank you,
David
-- Package-specific info:
-- apt-config dump --
APT "";
APT::Architecture "i386";
APT::Build-Essential "";
APT::Build-Essential:: "build-essential";
APT::Install-Recommends "1";
APT::Install-Suggests "0";
APT::Authentication "";
APT::Authentication::TrustCDROM "true";
APT::NeverAutoRemove "";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^firmware-linux.*";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^linux-firmware$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^linux-image-3\.14-2-486$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^linux-image-3\.14-2-686-pae$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^linux-headers-3\.14-2-486$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^linux-headers-3\.14-2-686-pae$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^linux-image-extra-3\.14-2-486$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^linux-image-extra-3\.14-2-686-pae$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^linux-signed-image-3\.14-2-486$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^linux-signed-image-3\.14-2-686-pae$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^kfreebsd-image-3\.14-2-486$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^kfreebsd-image-3\.14-2-686-pae$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^kfreebsd-headers-3\.14-2-486$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^kfreebsd-headers-3\.14-2-686-pae$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^gnumach-image-3\.14-2-486$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^gnumach-image-3\.14-2-686-pae$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^.*-modules-3\.14-2-486$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^.*-modules-3\.14-2-686-pae$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^.*-kernel-3\.14-2-486$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^.*-kernel-3\.14-2-686-pae$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^linux-backports-modules-.*-3\.14-2-486$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^linux-backports-modules-.*-3\.14-2-686-pae$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^linux-tools-3\.14-2-486$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^linux-tools-3\.14-2-686-pae$";
APT::VersionedKernelPackages "";
APT::VersionedKernelPackages:: "linux-image";
APT::VersionedKernelPackages:: "linux-headers";
APT::VersionedKernelPackages:: "linux-image-extra";
APT::VersionedKernelPackages:: "linux-signed-image";
APT::VersionedKernelPackages:: "kfreebsd-image";
APT::VersionedKernelPackages:: "kfreebsd-headers";
APT::VersionedKernelPackages:: "gnumach-image";
APT::VersionedKernelPackages:: ".*-modules";
APT::VersionedKernelPackages:: ".*-kernel";
APT::VersionedKernelPackages:: "linux-backports-modules-.*";
APT::VersionedKernelPackages:: "linux-tools";
APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections "";
APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: "metapackages";
APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: "restricted/metapackages";
APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: "universe/metapackages";
APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: "multiverse/metapackages";
APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: "oldlibs";
APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: "restricted/oldlibs";
APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: "universe/oldlibs";
APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: "multiverse/oldlibs";
APT::Update "";
APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success "";
APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success:: "/usr/bin/test -e /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.PackageKit.service && /usr/bin/test -S /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket && /usr/bin/gdbus call --system --dest org.freedesktop.PackageKit --object-path /org/freedesktop/PackageKit --timeout 4 --method org.freedesktop.PackageKit.StateHasChanged cache-update > /dev/null; /bin/echo > /dev/null";
APT::Architectures "";
APT::Architectures:: "i386";
APT::Compressor "";
APT::Compressor::. "";
APT::Compressor::.::Name ".";
APT::Compressor::.::Extension "";
APT::Compressor::.::Binary "";
APT::Compressor::.::Cost "1";
APT::Compressor::gzip "";
APT::Compressor::gzip::Name "gzip";
APT::Compressor::gzip::Extension ".gz";
APT::Compressor::gzip::Binary "gzip";
APT::Compressor::gzip::Cost "2";
APT::Compressor::gzip::CompressArg "";
APT::Compressor::gzip::CompressArg:: "-9n";
APT::Compressor::gzip::UncompressArg "";
APT::Compressor::gzip::UncompressArg:: "-d";
APT::Compressor::bzip2 "";
APT::Compressor::bzip2::Name "bzip2";
APT::Compressor::bzip2::Extension ".bz2";
APT::Compressor::bzip2::Binary "bzip2";
APT::Compressor::bzip2::Cost "3";
APT::Compressor::bzip2::CompressArg "";
APT::Compressor::bzip2::CompressArg:: "-9";
APT::Compressor::bzip2::UncompressArg "";
APT::Compressor::bzip2::UncompressArg:: "-d";
APT::Compressor::xz "";
APT::Compressor::xz::Name "xz";
APT::Compressor::xz::Extension ".xz";
APT::Compressor::xz::Binary "xz";
APT::Compressor::xz::Cost "4";
APT::Compressor::xz::CompressArg "";
APT::Compressor::xz::CompressArg:: "-6";
APT::Compressor::xz::UncompressArg "";
APT::Compressor::xz::UncompressArg:: "-d";
APT::Compressor::lzma "";
APT::Compressor::lzma::Name "lzma";
APT::Compressor::lzma::Extension ".lzma";
APT::Compressor::lzma::Binary "xz";
APT::Compressor::lzma::Cost "5";
APT::Compressor::lzma::CompressArg "";
APT::Compressor::lzma::CompressArg:: "--format=lzma";
APT::Compressor::lzma::CompressArg:: "-9";
APT::Compressor::lzma::UncompressArg "";
APT::Compressor::lzma::UncompressArg:: "--format=lzma";
APT::Compressor::lzma::UncompressArg:: "-d";
Dir "/";
Dir::State "var/lib/apt/";
Dir::State::lists "lists/";
Dir::State::cdroms "cdroms.list";
Dir::State::mirrors "mirrors/";
Dir::State::extended_states "extended_states";
Dir::State::status "/var/lib/dpkg/status";
Dir::Cache "var/cache/apt/";
Dir::Cache::archives "archives/";
Dir::Cache::srcpkgcache "srcpkgcache.bin";
Dir::Cache::pkgcache "pkgcache.bin";
Dir::Etc "etc/apt/";
Dir::Etc::sourcelist "sources.list";
Dir::Etc::sourceparts "sources.list.d";
Dir::Etc::vendorlist "vendors.list";
Dir::Etc::vendorparts "vendors.list.d";
Dir::Etc::main "apt.conf";
Dir::Etc::netrc "auth.conf";
Dir::Etc::parts "apt.conf.d";
Dir::Etc::preferences "preferences";
Dir::Etc::preferencesparts "preferences.d";
Dir::Etc::trusted "trusted.gpg";
Dir::Etc::trustedparts "trusted.gpg.d";
Dir::Bin "";
Dir::Bin::methods "/usr/lib/apt/methods";
Dir::Bin::solvers "";
Dir::Bin::solvers:: "/usr/lib/apt/solvers";
Dir::Bin::dpkg "/usr/bin/dpkg";
Dir::Bin::bzip2 "/bin/bzip2";
Dir::Bin::xz "/usr/bin/xz";
Dir::Bin::lzma "/usr/bin/xz";
Dir::Media "";
Dir::Media::MountPath "/media/cdrom";
Dir::Log "var/log/apt";
Dir::Log::Terminal "term.log";
Dir::Log::History "history.log";
Dir::Ignore-Files-Silently "";
Dir::Ignore-Files-Silently:: "~$";
Dir::Ignore-Files-Silently:: "\.disabled$";
Dir::Ignore-Files-Silently:: "\.bak$";
Dir::Ignore-Files-Silently:: "\.dpkg-[a-z]+$";
Dir::Ignore-Files-Silently:: "\.save$";
Dir::Ignore-Files-Silently:: "\.orig$";
Dir::Ignore-Files-Silently:: "\.distUpgrade$";
Acquire "";
Acquire::cdrom "";
Acquire::cdrom::mount "/media/cdrom";
Acquire::Languages "";
Acquire::Languages:: "en";
Acquire::Languages:: "none";
DPkg "";
DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs "";
DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs:: "/usr/bin/apt-listchanges --apt || test $? -ne 10";
DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs:: "/usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true";
DPkg::Tools "";
DPkg::Tools::Options "";
DPkg::Tools::Options::/usr/bin/apt-listchanges "";
DPkg::Tools::Options::/usr/bin/apt-listchanges::Version "2";
DPkg::Post-Invoke "";
DPkg::Post-Invoke:: "/usr/bin/test -e /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.PackageKit.service && /usr/bin/test -S /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket && /usr/bin/gdbus call --system --dest org.freedesktop.PackageKit --object-path /org/freedesktop/PackageKit --timeout 4 --method org.freedesktop.PackageKit.StateHasChanged cache-update > /dev/null; /bin/echo > /dev/null";
CommandLine "";
CommandLine::AsString "apt-config dump";
-- (no /etc/apt/preferences present) --
-- /etc/apt/sources.list --
deb http://192.168.1.34:9999/debian/ jessie main
deb-src http://192.168.1.34:9999/debian/ jessie main
deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main
deb http://192.168.1.34:9999/debian/ jessie-updates main
deb-src http://192.168.1.34:9999/debian/ jessie-updates main
deb http://192.168.1.34:9999/debian/ jessie-backports main
deb-src http://192.168.1.34:9999/debian/ jessie-backports main
-- System Information:
Debian Release: jessie/sid
APT prefers testing-updates
APT policy: (500, 'testing-updates'), (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 3.14-2-686-pae (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Versions of packages apt depends on:
ii debian-archive-keyring 2012.4
ii gnupg 1.4.18-2
ii libapt-pkg4.12 1.0.6
ii libc6 2.19-9
ii libgcc1 1:4.9.1-4
ii libstdc++6 4.9.1-4
apt recommends no packages.
Versions of packages apt suggests:
pn apt-doc <none>
ii aptitude 0.6.11-1
ii dpkg-dev 1.17.13
ii python-apt 0.9.3.8
ii synaptic 0.81.2
-- no debconf information
--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 02:47:39PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
> Package: apt
> Version: 1.0.6
> Severity: normal
>
> Dear Maintainer,
>
> It is wasteful for apt-get to install recommended packages by default.
> For example:
>
> 2014-09-01 14:33:26 root@dc86yxb1 ~
> # apt-get install kernel-package | grep 'Need to get'
> Need to get 745 MB of archives.
> n
>
> 2014-09-01 14:33:38 root@dc86yxb1 ~
> # apt-get install --no-install-recommends kernel-package | grep 'Need to get'
> Need to get 4423 kB of archives.
> n
>
>
> That's 168X and 740 MB of code bloat for one (1) package!
>
>
> At 1.5 Mbps, that's over 1 hour and 22 minutes to download!
>
>
> Please change the default behaviour of apt-get to NOT install
> recommended packages, and provide the user with optional means to
> install recommended packages.
No. Recommends are specifically packages that should be installed by
default. We also have Suggests for packages that should not be installed
by default, but may be useful.
--
Julian Andres Klode - Debian Developer, Ubuntu Member
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