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Bug#600490: Russian phonetic layout on a jp keyboard?



Dima Pasechnik, le Fri 26 Nov 2010 18:59:15 +0800, a écrit :
> On 25 November 2010 18:00, Samuel Thibault <sthibault@debian.org> wrote:
> > Dima Pasechnik, le Thu 25 Nov 2010 12:35:45 +0800, a écrit :
> >> Installing the upgrades mentioned here did not enable any options for
> >> choosing the phonetic layout for Russian on the Japanese keyboard.
> >
> > You mean typing Russian on a Japanese keyboard?  I didn't know about
> > such thing.  Why option were you using to achieve that?  I guess you are
> > talking about X keyboard layout, right?
> >
> yes. In my /etc/X11/xorg.conf I used to have, in the keyboard section,
> Option "XkbLayout" "jp,ru(phonetic)"
> Option "XkbVariant" "jp106"
> and it worked.
> Now I can select Russia Phonetic keyboard in Gnome Keyboard
> Preferences, but then I am stuck with Cyrillic characters only - the
> switching does not work. The only way out is to remove this keyboard
> choice and restart X.

Did you try to put the same kind of parameter as xorg.conf into
/etc/default/keyboard? It should be working exactly the same as
xorg.conf (except that it'll additionally work on the linux console
too!)

> And it looks like a specific Japanese keyboard problem. On a machine
> with a standard US keyboard I run the same Debian version, and am able
> to select and use "Russia Phonetic" layout.

Well, the thing is that supported layouts (i.e. that you can choose in
the debconf dialog box) only include one keymap, or us + non-latin
keymap.  For others, you have to configure it by hand.

> >> For the record, it's a Panasonic CF-R5 laptop.
> >> (you probably also know that there seems to be no way to *select* an
> >> appropriate keyboard)
> >
> > An appropriate keyboard for what?  The particular keyboard of that
> > laptop or typing russian on a japanese keyboard?  (The latter would
> > just be a consequence of the above).  In general, never assume we know
> > anything about localization cases, as most of us don't are not from that
> > localization, so although we usually have an idea, we usually don't know
> > all the details.
> 
> I meant "an appropriate keyboard model" for the laptop I am using.
> (in fact, there seem to be no jp106 keyboard layouts available in
> Gnome Keyboard Preferences.)

The jp106 model was dropped indeed, because its additional keys were
added to the base model.

> When I try printing the keyboard, from
> Gnome Keyboard Preferences, the output does not show it right (many
> "extra" keys are not shown).

That's the geometry part of the xkb configuration, not the model part
(though they are related, yes).  I think you should talk with upstream
about it (e.g. report the bug on http://bugs.freedesktop.org/)

Samuel



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