Bug#69036: marked as done (xserver-mach64: want Acceleration support for ATI Rage Mobility)
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From: Hugo van der Merwe <hugo@mailroom.com>
Subject: xserver-mach64: 3D Acceleration support for ATI Rage Mobility
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 00:32:31 +0200
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Package: xserver-mach64
Version: 3.3.6-10
Severity: wishlist
The subject pretty much says it all, I would love to have 3D acceleration
on my ATI Rage Mobility... (Hey, there's a reason I marked this as
"wishlist" ;)
I unfortunately do not have the know-how to contribute...
-- System Information
Debian Release: woody
Kernel Version: Linux gorilla 2.2.17 #1 Sun Jul 30 16:57:39 SAST 2000 i686 unknown
Versions of the packages xserver-mach64 depends on:
ii libc6 2.1.3-10 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone
ii xserver-common 3.3.6-10 files and utilities common to all X servers
ii zlib1g 1.1.3-9 compression library - runtime
^^^ (Provides virtual package libz1)
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Subject: support for XFree86 3.x discontinued
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The Debian Project has terminated support for version XFree86 3.x of the
XFree86 distribution of the X Window System.
Before reading further, please note that this message refers only to
version 3.x of XFree86. Support for the 4.x release series of XFree86
continues.
The reasons for this decision are several:
+ Most hardware that was supported by the XFree86 3.x X servers is now
supported by XFree86 4.x.
+ Much hardware that is not supported with a chipset-specific driver in
XFree86 4.x can be used with the "vesa" or, at worst "vga" drivers
in XFree86 4.x. Furthermore, those using the Linux kernel's
framebuffer console driver have the "fbdev" driver option.
+ XFree86 3.x is not maintained upstream. See:
http://www.xfree86.org/releaseplans.html
http://www.xfree86.org/rel33x.html
+ Perhaps most importantly, Debian is unable to muster support for
backporting security fixes to the XFree86 3.x source tree. The
Debian Project cannot in clear conscience continue to distribute
software that is known to have flaws.
Because of the above, all outstanding reports regarding XFree86 3.x are
being closed. The packages have been removed from the unstable
distribution, and will not appear in the next Debian release.
Most of the outstanding problems against Debian's XFree86 3.x packages
should be resolved in XFree86 4.x, and I urge you to upgrade to XFree86
4.x as soon as possible if you have not already. The XFree86 X server was
rearchitected for the XFree86 4.x and has at this point seen a few more
years' worth of testing, debugging, and improvement.
The only release of the Debian operating system currently supported is
Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 ("woody"). To upgrade to XFree86 4.x on your
system, install the following metapackage, which depends on most
components of the XFree86 distribution you are likely to use:
# apt-get install x-window-system
(You may, of course, use a front-end to the Debian package management
system other than "apt-get" if that is your preference.)
There are only two groups of people being "left out in the cold" with
termination of this support:
1) People who require versions of the X libraries linked against libc5.
If you continue to require this, please file a wishlist bug against
the "xfree86" package (after checking to see that no one else has
already done so, of course -- I recommend the "reportbug" package and
command of the same name for bug reporting). If a Debian developer
can be found who is willing to support this feature, it will be
added. (I myself cannot adequately support libc5 versions of the X
libraries, as I do not own an x86-compatible machine on which to test
such packages.) If no volunteer can be found, you may wish do so
yourself; upstream does continue to support libc5 configurations, so
the task should not be insuperable -- if you are interested, please
join the X Strike Force. See the following URL for more information:
http://people.debian.org/~branden/xsf/
2) People whose hardware was supported (possibly with access to hardware
acceleration of 2D drawing operations) under XFree86 3.x but which is
not under XFree86 4.x. To determine the support status of your video
hardware, identify the make and model of your video chipset (if you
have a removable video card, this is not necessarily the same thing
as the make and model of the video card itself). If you have a PCI
video card, the command "lspci | grep VGA" should reveal this
information. If you have video card that plugs into an ISA, VESA
local, or other bus, the output of the XFree86 3.x X server you use
is probably the best guide to identifying your chipset.
Once you know the make and model of your video chipset, consult the
following URLs to determine its support status in XFree86 4.x:
For Debian 3.0/stable/woody: http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/Status.html
For Debian testing/sarge: http://www.xfree86.org/4.2.1/Status.html
For Debian unstable/sid: http://www.xfree86.org/4.2.1/Status.html
For Debian experimental: http://www.xfree86.org/4.3.0/Status.html
(XFree86 4.3.0 is planned for inclusion in the next release of
Debian, but as it is not out of "experimental" yet, a pessimist would
count on nothing newer than XFree86 4.2.1 being in the next release
of Debian.)
A) If your video chipset is not supported at all, or is not supported
in a Debian archive you are willing to upgrade to (e.g., upgrading
to experimental can be a risky business and in any case will
require a newer version of the C library than is available than is
in Debian 3.0), then you should try the "vesa" or "vga" XFree86
video drivers to see if you can achieve comparable support.
If even the "vesa" or "vga" drivers do not work with your video
hardware, please file a bug with the Debian Bug Tracking System
against the "xserver-xfree86" package using "reportbug". Using
the "reportbug" package and command will automatically include
information that is often extremely useful for resolving the
problem.
You may also wish to file a bug with XFree86's Bugzilla bug
tracking system, which was recently inaugurated. Here is the URL:
http://bugs.xfree86.org/
B) If your video chipset is supported, but misbehaves, please file a
bug describing the problem with the Debian Bug Tracking System
against the "xserver-xfree86" package using "reportbug". Using
the "reportbug" package and command will automatically include
information that is often extremely useful for resolving the
problem.
You may also wish to file a bug with XFree86's Bugzilla bug
tracking system, which was recently inaugurated. Here is the URL:
http://bugs.xfree86.org/
Please do not reopen these bugs, even to reassign them. The vast
majority of them are so old that even if they continue to apply to
XFree86 4.x, the massive changes in the X server codebase make it
extremely likely that the actual bug is somewhat different (in cause, if
not in effect.) Furthermore, in Debian "testing" and later, there is an
xserver-xfree86-dbg package that can often be used to identify the exact
line of source code that leads to, for example, a server crash. It's
better, therefore, to start from scratch with these bugs.
Thanks for your patience with this long message.
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G. Branden Robinson | A celibate clergy is an especially
Debian GNU/Linux | good idea, because it tends to
branden@debian.org | suppress any hereditary propensity
http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | toward fanaticism. -- Carl Sagan
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