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Bug#646150: marked as done (www.debian.org: please define a policy for event locations)

Your message dated Tue, 09 Jul 2013 17:17:00 +0200
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has caused the Debian Bug report #646150,
regarding www.debian.org: please define a policy for event locations
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Package: www.debian.org
Severity: normal
User: events@debian.org
Usertags: events-list

Hi there!

Please keep the events@d.o address in the loop.

On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:47:29 +0200, David Prévot wrote:
> If I understood correctly, Mangalore is a town, not a state.
>
> If that's true, the Mangalore edition [1] seems a bit inconsistant with
> the Kerala edition [2], since they both take place in another town
> (respectively Nitte and Malappuram): while Malappuram is a town of the
> Kerala state, Nitte of course can't be a town of Mangalore.
>
>     1: http://www.debian.org/events/2011/1028-minidebconf-india-mangalore
>     2: http://www.debian.org/events/2011/0422-minidebconf-india-kerala

Thank you for having brought up this issue, which has actually two
sides: first, the name for a specific event and, second, which kind of
policy we have for the location (the WML "where" tag).

In the first case, I do not think that we should enforce any policy
about how to define the name for a specific event.  This because it is
up to the organizers of the event to decide its name.

In the second case, AFAIK the current policy is "CITY, COUNTRY" and it
has been like this for the events since 1999, with some exceptions like
"PHYSICAL_LOCATION, CITY, COUNTRY" (with PHYSICAL_LOCATION being the
building or the institution) or "CITY, STATE, COUNTRY" (especially true
for some USA locations).

I would enforce the policy defining the location as "CITY [(STATE)],
COUNTRY", for the very simple reason that the PHYSICAL_LOCATION is not
always well defined (e.g. a university is not a building).  STATE is not
mandatory, but if present it should be in parenthesis.  If it should be
abbreviated (my preference) or not is another point that should be
defined.

Please note that in a recent case, however, the Events team was asked to
change the location with a more-known one [3].  Nevertheless, I still
think that we should be strict on this policy (which means the above
commit should be reverted), especially because strangers could not be
aware of local practices for city names/locations.

[3] <http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/webwml/webwml/english/events/2011/0422-minidebconf-india-kerala.wml?r1=1.1&r2=1.2>

Going back to your specific case, please note that I decided to use the
names present on the on the general India Mini-DebConf 2011 website [4].
However, I would like a bit more consistency when organizing different
sub-events, given your remark.  And moreover the Pune edition [5] is
also called "Mini-DebConf Maharashtra" in the Kerala edition wiki page
[6] (which name BTW is misleading).

[4] <http://in2011.mini.debconf.org/>
[5] <http://www.debian.org/events/2011/0813-minidebconf-india>
[6] <http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIndia/MiniDebConf2011/Participants>

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca

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tags 657297 + wontfix
thanks

Hi there!

On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 01:42:17 +0200, David Prévot wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 10:17:03AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
>> On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 15:34 +0100, Luca Capello wrote:
>> 
>> > I have started to document this on a wiki page [1], I will wait one more
>> > week before sending an RFC to the d-publicity@ mailing list.
>> > 
>> > [1] <http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Events/Policy>
>
> Since there doesn’t seem to be any team willing to update the
> ww.d.o/events section any more [2], is this issue still relevant?
>
> 	2: http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/webwml/webwml/english/events/index.wml?r1=1.43&r2=1.44

Good catch, bug closed, but as a wontfix since the solution has been
implemented in another "package" (wiki.d.o).

> The organization page [3] nevertheless list ten names for that team, is
> it still relevant to keep it on this page? If so, who is actually still
> active in this team?
>
> 	3: http://www.debian.org/intro/organization#publicity

The last check done around 2013-05-20 [4] resulted in at least three
replies (Arne, Joost and Martin).  I will monitor the events@d.o mailbox
until DebConf13 and then step down, after having removed my name from
that page (and consequently asking from my removal from events@d.o).

[4] <http://lists.debian.org/519A31A6.8030401@debian.org>

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca

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